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Originally Posted by nuguy
What's a good price on the vx6 2-12x40 plex model? Most places have them listed for $900-$1000. Do you think a Swarovski z3 3-10x40 for $800 is a better scope for the same money?


The Swaro is a 3-10x42...

One really big difference is you CANNOT get an upgraded turret for that model Swaro. I have one (the AV version) and it's very nice, but if a fancy turret is something you want, you can scratch it off the list.

That being said, the stock turret is resettable and is very usable out to 600, 700 yards.

The Swaro is lighter.


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How many MOA is built into one turn of that Swaro out of curiousity?


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JG, I don't know offhand and I'm out in my shop. I'll check later for you.


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Originally Posted by Bwilliams1848
Still no words of wisdom regarding the scopecoat?


Scope coat works great to protect the scope in the safe or just general protection but I don't use it for hunting, but it can be used to protect a scope in hunting situations depending how you hunt...just use your imagination!

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Originally Posted by RDFinn
If I'm not mistaken, I believe Leupold uses their "Fire Dot" illuminated system in those VX-6's. Just saying cause the folks I know who have used them seem to like them.

An observation FWIW. Looked through a couple of the VX-6 and VX-R scopes the other day. The etched Firedot Duplex reticle in the VX-R looked real good. The opening is wider than regular Duplex and both sections just a bit heavier. To me, the VX-R 3-9x40 looked every bit as good as the VX-6 2-12 and had excellent eyebox and relief characteristics. After messing with the Firedot a bit I really want one, previously I'd not given them enough of a chance. Powered off - they are nice and bold. With the dot lit up - throw it up against a dark background and there's not doubt. The VX-6 I handled was the wire non-Firedot Duplex... On the fence for a VX-R 2-7 or 3-9. Email back from Leupold said that 2-7 and 3-9 but not 4-12 VX-Rs are M1 compatible and any Firedot reticle can be switched out. OT


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That 4-12x40 VX-R w/ fire dot duplex does come with CDS though, if that matters.


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Anyone using butler creeks on a vx6? Didn't know if it was possible with the fast focus eyepiece.

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If you end up picking one of those up, I'd like to take a peek through it sometime.

Originally Posted by oregontripper
Originally Posted by RDFinn
If I'm not mistaken, I believe Leupold uses their "Fire Dot" illuminated system in those VX-6's. Just saying cause the folks I know who have used them seem to like them.

An observation FWIW. Looked through a couple of the VX-6 and VX-R scopes the other day. The etched Firedot Duplex reticle in the VX-R looked real good. The opening is wider than regular Duplex and both sections just a bit heavier. To me, the VX-R 3-9x40 looked every bit as good as the VX-6 2-12 and had excellent eyebox and relief characteristics. After messing with the Firedot a bit I really want one, previously I'd not given them enough of a chance. Powered off - they are nice and bold. With the dot lit up - throw it up against a dark background and there's not doubt. The VX-6 I handled was the wire non-Firedot Duplex... On the fence for a VX-R 2-7 or 3-9. Email back from Leupold said that 2-7 and 3-9 but not 4-12 VX-Rs are M1 compatible and any Firedot reticle can be switched out. OT


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Originally Posted by JGRaider
How many MOA is built into one turn of that Swaro out of curiousity?


JG, my 3-10x42 AV has 14 MOA in a revolution.

<edit: stop here if you don't want to read my tired blathering!>

It's enough to get me further than I'd shoot at game on the rifle it's on (a light 7WSM) and I appreciate them supplying it as-issued with a slick little resettable finger-turn turret... on the downside the markings are limited, and it'd certainly be nice if an upgrade path existed. It's far from ideal but tracks great and in the end, I can hit stuff with it quite effectively out to 500 or so.. I did shoot it further last fall, with mixed results (750 yards is a long [bleep]' ways away!) and intend to this spring/summer as the noggin allows.

I run it with a redneck CDS setup so the lame markings (they only go up to 8 MOA) don't really matter.

Those VX6's horn me up; I'm following your reports on yours with great interest.


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JeffO, thank you sir ! If it weren't already mounted I'd send it to you for you to check it out.

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Originally Posted by Oregontripper
The VX-6 I handled was the wire non-Firedot Duplex... OT


I thought all VX-6 scopes had etched reticles?

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Originally Posted by KDK
If you end up picking one of those up, I'd like to take a peek through it sometime.

Sure. I'm having a hard time resisting.

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Originally Posted by Oregontripper
The VX-6 I handled was the wire non-Firedot Duplex... OT

I thought all VX-6 scopes had etched reticles?

JM, Not 100% certain. Thought the VX-6 regular Duplex models are just like all the other non-illuminated Leupy Duplex, wire. But I've been browsing Midwayusa and their site says wire, maybe got that idea there? Just fired off an email to Leupold and will report.


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The duplex reticle is etched. Not sure about the ill. ones.


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Originally Posted by oregontripper
Originally Posted by KDK
If you end up picking one of those up, I'd like to take a peek through it sometime.

Sure. I'm having a hard time resisting.

Originally Posted by JohnMoses
Originally Posted by Oregontripper
The VX-6 I handled was the wire non-Firedot Duplex... OT

I thought all VX-6 scopes had etched reticles?

JM, Not 100% certain. Thought the VX-6 regular Duplex models are just like all the other non-illuminated Leupy Duplex, wire. But I've been browsing Midwayusa and their site says wire, maybe got that idea there? Just fired off an email to Leupold and will report.


I would be interested when you hear back. Thanks for checking on something I hadn't even thought of yet!

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Originally Posted by JGRaider
The duplex reticle is etched. Not sure about the ill. ones.


incorrect, the duplex is an electroform reticle

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Leupold uses etched reticles for their B&C type offerings and in their heavy duty use tactical scopes due to their extra strength.

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Originally Posted by antiantis
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The duplex reticle is etched. Not sure about the ill. ones.


incorrect, the duplex is an electroform reticle


OK if you say so, but I can tell you it looks slightly different than a VX3 plex reticle. Also, it stays black all the time.


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yep, it should. they are converting all their duplex reticles to the electroform. i was curious about the "black all the time" comment so i called them and they told me that they are now blackening the reticle. they stated that this cuts down on internal light refraction, and increases low light visibility of the reticle.

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Gotta be some catchy new trademark name attached to them actually blackening a reticle. I'd be disappointed otherwise.

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Ultra-wave Blackened Reticle Deposition...

So the ones that will look amber sometimes are wire, and the nice black ones are deposited, and the nice black with Firedot are etched? Still awaiting info.


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