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It would depend on what I wanted to do with them, particularly how much power I needed.
The other thing would be the ammunition needs. To my mind, they'd both need to use the same load. Otherwise, you might as well have two different chamberings.
As a practical matter, I'd go with a .22 Rimfire Magnum, a .357 Magnum, or a .44 Magnum. However, care would have to be taken with the .357 or the .44 load as much of the ammo on the market for them was designed to expand at handgun velocities. At rifle velocities you could have penetration problems. E

the superior ballistic coefficient of rifle bullets vs pistol bullets of the same weight plays, I am sure, some part in all this discussion.
I would think the difference would be so great, that the pistol bullet carbine would never be able to 'run' with a rifle bullet of the same weight and caliber.

I could counter that if you can't handle the recoil, how is it that you handle the weight? But it's a stupid argument either way. You carry the weight all day. Recoil lasts for a fraction of a second. Which one is more important to you? And besides that - any more recoil than "enough to get the job done" is next to pointless.

But that isn't the only point. If I have to carry a 4.5lb gun, why would I not want it to be capable of longer range? Is there something in your woods that a .454 or even a warm-loaded .45 Colt from a rifle can't kill?



Ummm....which .44mag? Do I even need to explain that?



Yeah - you should listen to yourself there.



It's only an issue if you want it to be. If you're hunting close to your vehicle - no, it isn't an issue.

But I don't think anyone restricted this discussion to hunting handguns. In fact - when it comes to big-game, I can't see most people wanting both a "hunting handgun" (a hunting-specific handgun) and a rifle at the same time.

That's a fact.

Check the ballistic differences for a 150gr RNFP in .30-.30 against the 150gr Ballistic Tip in the same barrel length.

I can pack my BFR along all day long in a well fit Bandoleer holster,there is know problem....

The fact is..Recoil is the major problem for "Most" people in shooting handguns capable of taking the largest critters,not handgun weight.

I bought my first 454 Casull for handgun hunting and the challenge it presented and I did not carry double(Rifle and Handgun)Handgun only..Then I got the 45-70 in BFR that is everything the 454 Casull is plus alot more..Alot more..A really lot more.At it chucks out 420 grain Cast from Garrett Cartridges at 32,000 PSI/CUP at 1560 fps with mild recoil in my mind but capable and made for 43,500 PSI or 40,600 CUP...

To each his own...If something like the BFR or the Smith and Wesson .500 is to heavy,use something lighter and less effective on Big Game...

Jayco

Howdy Jaycoff! How was you stay in the ol' grey bar hotel? Glad you exercised you poor reading comprehension here.

I shoot a .45-70 that weighs far less than that thing you tote around. I like that you choose to stick light weight bullets like 300 or 350gr too. Personally I am running Hard Cast 420gr WLN with gas checks, and 405gr JSPs. OH yeah forgot to mention my gun runs those same bullets you getting 1560fps with at around 1700fps.

Show me you 45-70 revolver or your a liar.

Your old buddy..

Jayco

Clear the booze from your vision Tipsy McStagger....
It ain't a revolver, it IS a .45-70, it weighs less than your BFR, and I already posted a picture of it.

Want me to do it again for you?

For Jaycoff....






If you'd like some fresh ones I can probably oblige when I get home from work this evening, but you'd need to say the please....

A single shot contender.

Get real.............What is the barrel length..12 or 14"?

Jayco

Tell me the load..I have about every load for the 45-70 that has been pressure checked...

Your load for a 420 grain cast at 1700 fps.

Brass stamp...

Powder used....

Barrel length...

Jayco

Jayco,

I thought you had stopped posting. Welcome back.


Travis

Even with the 11" barrel on my Contender the gun's overall length is shorter than your BFR, it weighs less than your BFR, and even better still it will run the same bullets and loads even faster....
Those Garretts you mention hit a touch over 1700fps in my gun.
The extra velocity ain't hard to understand for most folks, but I will spell it out for you simpleton.
No velocity loss from a clyinder gap like with the BFR, and 3 1/2" more barrel than a 7 1/2" barreled BFR or 1" more than the 10" barreled BFR.

Keep talking drunky. How was county lockup last week? Get any wrasslin' done?

Give me your load data...Garretts are chronographed at 1850 fps in a 22" barrel at 32K.Given 26 fps as an average of 17/45-70 loads chronoed by Rick Jamison per barrel inch,your way over and lieing.

Jayco

Jaycoff... Tell me you want my load, and I'll give it to you.
Ask for it.





Thats almost as good as Jeffo demanding someones load.

Why did you not answer me?


Travis

You only wish I was, drunky...

Ummm...Duhhhhhh...When did I quit posting?

Remember...You are the forum and should notice when a guy just post one or two a day instead of the quick liners that post dozens.....

Thank you for the welcome back Carter post.I will always have your back through thick and thin.

Jayco

I want your load data for the 45-70 with a 420 grain bullet at over 1700 fps in a 11" barrel.

Jayco

I'll bet you do.

I'll give you a hint.
RE 7...
Rem Brass...
FEd 210...
Are you really this dim?