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I dont think you look through the T-1 you look at it and at your target with both eyes open it obscures much less of the scene than do the larger aimpoints. I don't peer thru a red dot like a rifle scope when shooting at 50 yards or under.

Both eyes open with correct check weld and the T1's housing disapears all I hear is steel gongs ringing

trucks, guns, southeast mo. say it ain't so

ted are those magpul stocks and forearm?

UTG free float for with magpul everything else

While it may seem that way, there is not a single 1x-blank scope made that has "0" magnification. The S&B 1-8x Shortdot is very close. If you doubt this try reading a newspaper while looking through the scope with the paper held about arms length in front of the objective. Then do the same with an Aimpoint. Although I don't know why you would have to do this unless you have a weird issue with your eyesight, as it is plain to see while looking at close targets (10-20ft distance) that there is a difference between images with bare eyes and looking through the scope.


I have used the Burris XTR extensively. As well as all three versions of the S&B ShortDot 1-4x, Meopta K-Dot 1-4x, GRSC 1-4 and 1-6, Leupold 1.1-8x CQBSS, Swarovski Z6i 1-6x, Ziess VV 1.1-4x, Trijicon TR24 1-4x, and just about every other low power variable suitable for use on an M4. While some are better then others, and a couple are truly outstanding, none are as fast as an Aimpoint or EoTech.

I said basicly the same thing a year or two ago when SWFA came out with their 1-4 scope and was told I didn't know what I was talking about. Good to see I'm not the only one

Yeah, I think Formid has confused one of the many cheaper Burris imports with the XTR. Bruce Piatt runs one one his 3-gun rifle, or at least he has in the past, as most of the top tier guys have gone to 1-6x scopes this year.

The typical 1-4 scopes are also heavy, I picked up a 3.5X trijicon the other day it seemed a lot lighter than my 1-4 Nightforce. The new SWFA 1-6 is 22 ounces IIRC without the mount! If I am going to scope another rifle it will be either a traditional 1 inch rifle scope or an ACOG. I won't ever get another 1-4.

I am not confused. I know exactly which Burris you are referring. Additionally I know what optic Bruce is using as I shoot with him several times a year.

There are no 1x optics that are truly 1x. They are all 1.something x.

"There are no 1x optics that are truly 1x. They are all 1.something x."

And for clarity, this is what I was agreeing with.