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One more thing, a few years ago at SHOT, I talked to the folks at the McM booth re: Sako and the possibility of McM stocks, they said 'No go' so it's surely a 'bean counters' decision at corporate....... No doubt. I also think it's interesting that when SAKO decided to upgrade their A7 stocks on the Tecomate rifles, they went with Bell and Carlson..
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Gary-
Lovely rifle. Perefect sights. I look forward to more pics and a full range report.
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One more thing, a few years ago at SHOT, I talked to the folks at the McM booth re: Sako and the possibility of McM stocks, they said 'No go' so it's surely a 'bean counters' decision at corporate....... McMillan makes several stocks for Sako 85, including the recoil lugs in the stocks. I know because I just received mine McMillan stocks two weeks ago for my Kodiak 85 and my Classic 85.
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Jim, to your point, IF gun mfg. would offer say a nice $250 discount by selling a bbl/action of choice, w/o stock, then us Loony's would surely be better off just ordering what we want, unless the wait time for a McM is an issue.
Come to think of it, mfg. production speed may be an issue for McM I don't know, to keep up w/mass produced rifles on an assembly line. But I do know from that SHOT conversation, it's 'cost control' as many corporations do that dictated McM or not.
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Gary, great to see your new Sako rifle in 9.3. I'm envious for sure and hope you show us some groups.
I have two Sako A7's that out shoot my custom barreled rifles with McEdge stocks.
They are shooters for sure. One 25-06 has put 75 bullets under a .8 so far. I've still yet to clean it.
Their stocks are durable and I like the ergos.
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The Black Bear is half a pound lighter than expected. The standard listed weight from their prototype rifle is 7-pounds, but mine weighs in at 6 1/2 pounds with magazine box. Very pleasant surprise, the rifle appears closer to a Finnlight than to a Brown Bear. The balance and handiness is outstanding! It basically handles like a Finnlight with fixed sights. So far I'm pleased. I'll give it a shake down when I return from my trip. Later  ![[Linked Image]](http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6058/6300471669_c24619d03c.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6224/6301005614_f7598e5f44.jpg) If I may ask, what is the dia. of the barrel at the muzzle? Trying to get an idea of what contour the barrel is.
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I have a hunter coming up this spring who will be using the .370 Sako - aka 9.3x66 - and I'll let you all know how it works.
Having killed big bears with the 9.3x62, 9.5x62 ( aka 375 Scovill) and the 375 H&H and never noticed any difference between any of them I am betting the .370 does just as well.
The beauty of the Sako Black Bear model in my opinion was it's light weight and lively handling.
Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master Guide, Alaska Hunter Ed Instructor FAA Master pilot www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.comAnyone who claims the 30-06 is not effective has either not used one, or else is unwittingly commenting on their marksmanship.
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I just bought one of these today in 308win. Should have it in a week or so and I am looking forward to it.
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Just picked up a 9.3 black bear over here in Kodiak.
We'll have to get Taj, out shooting one of these days!
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Jason, the weather still has him and his plane stuck there. As him to show you his new 375 Ruger McMillan purple swirly 
Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master Guide, Alaska Hunter Ed Instructor FAA Master pilot www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.comAnyone who claims the 30-06 is not effective has either not used one, or else is unwittingly commenting on their marksmanship.
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Tikka T3 SS synthetic, 7lbs. even with a 1.75-6 Leupold in steel rings, limbsaver pad + 5 shot mag.
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Tikka T3 SS synthetic . . . . Presumably not available in the US ?
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Paul,
Purple Swirl! That's great...
Good thing he carries a mt. gun or I'd have to tease him.
Saw his plane flying out of the airport and figured he'd left.
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Back to the 9.3,
Does anyone have experiences with the barnes 250 grain?
I have a few different factory loads coming from Anchorage; but I'm hoping to craft loads for the Black Bear around the 286 Nosler Partition and 250 grain Barnes.
Jason
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Jason, he stopped by the valley and had lunch with us and made it to Fbks a little after dark. He is back flying in Fbks now for awhile. Guess you won't get to see his McSwirly. He had to replace his beat up 375 Ruger as it walked away from behind the counter at Andrews Air. As he said, somebody is in for a rude suprise when the open the gun case.
keep an eye out for the ugliest 375 ruger on the island
Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master Guide, Alaska Hunter Ed Instructor FAA Master pilot www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.comAnyone who claims the 30-06 is not effective has either not used one, or else is unwittingly commenting on their marksmanship.
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Phil,
I've seen it...I think a blender attacked the stock. To bad it walked off, it's easy to have happen down there at Trident.
I'll have to try hard to make my black bear as worn in as his .375 ruger.
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I just picked up my Black Bear in 9.3x62 and it's short and light. 6lbs 8.6ozs by itself. Should be quite a handy little thumper. The open sights are very visible as well.
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Any range reports yet on the Black Bear 9.3s?
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I hope Gary gets back to us pretty soon with some stats and groups.
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