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Don't worry so much about the best bullet, make sure you can put the bullet exactly where you want it! Which is why the A-Max is a good hunting bullet So with that logic-a FMJ would be a good hunting bullet-and its not! Neither a FMJ or a Varmint Grenade are great choices for shooting game like elk or deer...
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Don't worry so much about the best bullet, make sure you can put the bullet exactly where you want it! Which is why the A-Max is a good hunting bullet So with that logic-a FMJ would be a good hunting bullet-and its not! Neither a FMJ or a Varmint Grenade are great choices for shooting game like elk or deer... I didn't say they were.
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Never seen a Amax fail to quickly kill any animal it was pointed at whether put behind the shoulder or into it. Sample of probably 25 animals which isn't huge but enough to get a good idea.
Don't see how it's a worse option then the NBT, Berger or the like.
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My point is: If they are not recommended my the manufacture for hunting, then why use them? There has got to be a reason why they would say this. Thats all. If they work, great, but I personally would stick to an SST or Interlock.
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Have you ever used an SST, and on what?
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I used the sst once on deer and will never again. it was a small WT doe and it literally exploded on a high shoulder shot. it worked and killed her right there, but it was messy with lots of meat loss. I use a 70 grain NBT now in my .243 and everything (deer,coyotes, antelope) flops right there. I use the 208 amax in my 300 win mag for long shots and bigger stuff.
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I've never made a bad shot with one, so I can't say how they would do in that case. With all the lung.heart shots I've made, they have performed as they should.
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me either, mine was right behind the point of the shoulder angling down through the vitals destroying the heart. so shot placement was perfect, but the hole it left going in and out was huge. I prefer a small hole in, medium size hole out and DRT, I get that with the BT's. granted it was a sample of 1, but after what I saw I didn't want to continue.
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I don't understand why people use A-Max as a hunting bullet-ITS NOT- as clearly stated on Hornady's website "Match bullets are not recommended for hunting." A-Max are match bullets. Yes, they may kill an animal, but so will a stick. You can't guarantee proper expansion. And when hunting at any distance- this is not ethical hunting. Just my .02 That's priceless..... Please continue with your imagination.
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I don't understand why people use A-Max as a hunting bullet-ITS NOT- as clearly stated on Hornady's website "Match bullets are not recommended for hunting." A-Max are match bullets. Yes, they may kill an animal, but so will a stick. You can't guarantee proper expansion. And when hunting at any distance- this is not ethical hunting. Just my .02 That's priceless..... Please continue with your imagination. Thought I just heard Stick say something... DF
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I used a 150 gr Hornady Interbond on my last muley. I've also used 165 gr Grand Slams, 180 gr Hornady Spire Points, Remington Corelokts and Nosler Partitions. They all worked fine on deer, elk and hogs.
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I don't understand why people use A-Max as a hunting bullet-ITS NOT- as clearly stated on Hornady's website "Match bullets are not recommended for hunting." A-Max are match bullets. Yes, they may kill an animal, but so will a stick. You can't guarantee proper expansion. And when hunting at any distance- this is not ethical hunting. Just my .02 That's priceless..... Please continue with your imagination. I don't know what you mean by that, but what ever. Nothing I said wasn't true.
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Just me but if'n I'm shooting at 500 yds on a deer or lope it's gonna be cause he's pretty snazzy. At that time for me it's about turfing them and now!
Dober That right there is how I feel. If I pull out the 300WM and am smoking things at 500 then I want to crush it. At that point I do not care about a pound or two of bloodshot meat. If I did I would be using the 243 instead. I prefer Amax's because of how the perform terminally, however the 155 Scenar or Berger would be absolutely cheating in the 300 for 700 yards or so and in.... On the bloodshot meat thing....AMEN Brothuh! The 168 gr VLD Hunting's are extremely accurate on my 7mag. Hoping to prove you right on their performance. I've killed lots of mule deer with SST's, Partitions, Interlokt's, Barnes X, and corelokts. Their not very hard too kill really.
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I think that after all of the imput from everyone I am gonna try the 185 bergers and see how then work. If I can work up an accurate load I think i should be set. If not, I'll try some accubonds. Thanks for all of the input guys!
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I shoot 180 Nosler Partitions out of my 300 WBY Mag, most stuff DRT!
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I shoot 180 Nosler Partitions out of my 300 WBY Mag, most stuff DRT!
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ive been hopin for a thread like this to come around...been tryin to decide what i wanna use out of my 300..the 155 grain scenars look pretty legit, and the amax's will prolly be my first attempts
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Anything in the 180 gr. weight range will work for cup and core bullets. My 300 winny likes 180 gr. win powerpoints so that's probably what I'd use. I'd probably substitute for a partition if elk were on the agenda though....although I've killed deer with the 300 winny using bullets from 165gr. to 200 gr. and they worked great.......Hard to go wrong here....
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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