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Anyway, fabulous brass CAN BE MADE and it sometimes comes from the strangest places. You're so right. Some of the best neck walls I've measured came from RP 243 Win. brass out of a lowly box of Core Lokt factory ammo.
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It takes all kinds but if I never have to trim a piece of brass again I'll be happy as a clam. Doesn't that have more to do with the case design than the brass itself? I have shot my WSM brass more than eight firings & have yet to trim. The 7 Wby brass, on the other hand, needs trimming almost every firing. Norma makes Nosler's brass.
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It can also have a lot to do with how the as fired dimensions of your brass interact with the sizing die.
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Reloder28,
Norma makes quite a bit of Nosler brass, but not all.
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Exactly.
The shoulder angle has something to do with how much brass stretches, but die/brass fit is at least as important.
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Reloder28,
Norma makes quite a bit of Nosler brass, but not all. Exactly.....I "unofficially" confirmed this through a couple of my old contacts quite some time ago that have been with them for a long time........and don't ask me who.
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I recall reading a Wolfe mag (Handloader or Rifle) article by John Haviland about his trip to the Norma factory. Norma was making 300 WSM brass with a Federal Cartridge headstamp. Makes me wonder whether Norma also made the 7mm WSM brass for Federal also.
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Then, Lapua must be the remaining good stuff.
Lapua does need some prep work and it is not perfect but it absolutely has the best metalurgy of ANY brass. I have some lot's of brass from other maker's that are phenomenal (6mm Remington brass made by Remington ...etc.) but day in day out Lapua has the best primer pocket's, flash hole's too. they just dont make brass for every chambering and is to expensive for some. btw: nice to still see you posting Steve !
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Reloder28,
Norma makes quite a bit of Nosler brass, but not all. Well, at least I wasn't totally wrong this time.
By the way, in case you missed it, Jeremiah was a bullfrog.
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Reloder28,
Norma makes quite a bit of Nosler brass, but not all. Well, at least I wasn't totally wrong this time. Same with me.
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Nosler is Federal (supposedly)..this has been discussed to death when Nosler was first brought to the market.
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Nope. Some is Federal, some is Norma. I know for sure Norma makes the .280 AI and 9.3x62 brass. Some Nosler brass may even be something else.
Most major brass manufacturers make cases for other major brass manufacturers from time to time, for various reasons. Which is why I often chuckle when somebody on the Fire has very firm opinions about the characteristics of any "brand" of brass.
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.....I often chuckle when somebody on the Fire has very firm opinions about the characteristics of any "brand" of brass. Well, I know for sure that WW brass (in 300 WSM) has split necks often on first firings and way too regular on second firings. I won't wast my money on it.
By the way, in case you missed it, Jeremiah was a bullfrog.
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Well, I know for sure that WW brass (in 300 WSM) has split necks often on first firings and way too regular on second firings. I won't wast my money on it.
Well I have always used WW or Fed brass Never had that happen in a REAL mag. Seriously, SO FAR I have not had any problem w/WW brass
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I shoot Winchester 300 WSM brass too. No problems with up to 6 to 8 reloadings so far. I wonder if you got a bad batch?
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Maybe I did get a bad batch.
By the way, in case you missed it, Jeremiah was a bullfrog.
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Sorry about the thread necro but I bought some 300 wby nosler brass based on the info in this thread. It's a bit cheaper than weatherby/norma brass so I was hoping it was the same thing just headstamped nosler. It weights the exact same as weatherby brass. I also have hornady which was significantly heavier and remington 8mm rem mag which I fireformed to 300 wby that was even heavier. Not sure if 8mm rem mag and 300 wby by remington weigh the same but it's a simple neck down and it's good to go.
I for one am convinced 300 wby nosler is the same as wby/norma based on the fact their weight is identical.
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