|
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,148 Likes: 2
Campfire 'Bwana
|
OP
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,148 Likes: 2 |
I just got my nine three project put together. It's on a 98 Mauser action that I bought from a Fire member, posted earlier. It's late 40's, early 50's and already had swing safety, Canjar trigger and Oberndorf type, three panel bolt handle. I had Jim Kobe fit a 22", #3 Shilen and blue (400 polish) the barreled action. I bought a B&C Medalist stock from Brownells, glassed and free floated the barreled action. I want to get a VX-3 2.5-8x36 with post/crosshair and CDS. On hand is a 4200 Elite 3-9x40 and a VX-III 2.5-8x36. I have Talley rings and bought Talley bases. Had to send them back as I couldn't mount the Leupold like I wanted without a front extension base, which Talley doesn't (to my knowledge) offer. The Oberndorf, rather straight handle, takes more ring height to clear the scope eyepiece. After searching the Brownell's catalog, figuring ring heights for quite a while, I decided to go with the new style Weaver rings with screws on both sides. These mounts are strong, light, and although not QDs, make on and off a breeze with no loss of zero. They're not as pretty as Talley and others, but this is a working gun, not a show piece. Here's a photo of the gun and both scopes, lined up as they go on the gun for right eye relief. You'll see the 4200, extending back more than the Leupy. The 4200 has a 3.3" ER, the Leupy, 4.5"/3.6". I like McM's more than B&C's, but there is a wait and Brownell has these stocks in inventory. Here is a photo comparing an Ed Brown Damara with McM and the Mauser with B&C Medalist. Not much difference is shape, although the B&C may be a tad straighter. Here are photos comparing my .338-284 Alpha Arms Alaskan with the Mauser and comparisons of the two rounds. G ] One's fatter, one's longer. They both demand respect and have a lot going for them. DF
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,148 Likes: 2
Campfire 'Bwana
|
OP
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,148 Likes: 2 |
Here's a better photo of the bolt handle. BTW, I shortened the front extension base, so nothing overhangs the action opening. I re-cut the crossbar groove in the base so the rear of the front ring fits flush. With the 2.5-8x36, none of the front base is wasted. DF
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 29,650 Likes: 5
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 29,650 Likes: 5 |
Great looking rifle DF. Classic bolt knob looks great as do the mods on the front base; an awesome package all the way around!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,311
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,311 |
Great looking rifle, good luck with it!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 48,109 Likes: 11
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 48,109 Likes: 11 |
Great looking rifle and great idea with the base and ring...Let us know how she shoots......I've had my eye on a 9.3x62 also recently.......they just seem to make sense....
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 78,300 Likes: 1
Campfire Oracle
|
Campfire Oracle
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 78,300 Likes: 1 |
Yep...good looking rifle DF, and you are right..it'll be Mo' betta with a 2.5-8 on it....
Good utility gun...
"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 3,626
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 3,626 |
Don't think that rifle would be good for anything, send it this way and I'll take it off your hands!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 988
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 988 |
Like that a lot! I'm gathering parts for my own 9.3. So far I have a a mark x action w/ old style BM, dakota 3 pos safety, talley bolt handle. Still need trigger, sights, bbl band, bbl & would like to do wood.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,148 Likes: 2
Campfire 'Bwana
|
OP
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,148 Likes: 2 |
I played with the idea of sights, even had a NECG peep sight on hand to see how I liked it. The B&C Medalist has a straight comb, set up for scopes. I'd need a different style stock to incorporate iron sights. So for this project, I decided to go with a slick barrel.
The compromise is in the reticle and low powered glass for fast shooting. If I was going to hunt African DG, I'd want a bigger gun and for sure, express sights. This gun could see African plains game and for sure North American big game.
DF
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 6,065
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 6,065 |
I wish I could get by with a 2.5-8 on a long action--would have to seriously cut the stock to get it to work for me.
Looked at the 3x for a 9.3...maybe
Defend the Constitution
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,148 Likes: 2
Campfire 'Bwana
|
OP
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,148 Likes: 2 |
I don't know why they have to make those short scopes. Mounting them is generally a PITA. Makes one wish for the old 50's and 60's vintage Weaver K series. Those scopes were clear, good glass until we got spoiled with newer, high resolution scopes. At least they were easy to mount and were tough.
DF
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 6,065
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 6,065 |
short actions I guess...maybe genetics--fewer of us have the penal servitude design.
may will just put a Lupy 3-9 on my 9.3 rather than a the new 3x20--larger FOV...
Defend the Constitution
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 427
Campfire Member
|
Campfire Member
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 427 |
i've got a terrible twitch to buy/build a 9.3x62. the .35 whelen is phenomenal, but the weightlifting kraut sibling is one intersting hammer for sure.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,148 Likes: 2
Campfire 'Bwana
|
OP
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,148 Likes: 2 |
I've never owned a .35 Whelen, but have read good stuff about it most of my life.
I became interested in the nine three, reading about it on the Fire and elsewhere. They're pretty close, IMHO. Just depends on which way one wants to go. Hard to go wrong, either way.
The .338-06 is a good one. I like my .338-284, which is pretty close to the '06 version. Very accurate, hits hard, just like the nine three.
DF
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 46,253 Likes: 2
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 46,253 Likes: 2 |
Those are some fine lookin' rifles Dirtfarmer, them dang Louisiana hogs get to bothering ya to much, just holler and I'll pack up my 9.3 and be right there. Gunner
Trump Won!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,148 Likes: 2
Campfire 'Bwana
|
OP
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,148 Likes: 2 |
Those are some fine lookin' rifles Dirtfarmer, them dang Louisiana hogs get to bothering ya to much, just holler and I'll pack up my 9.3 and be right there. Gunner We're not yet as bad off as those Texicans, regarding hogs. We're fighting hard to keep from ending up like them. Those guys need help... DF
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 46,253 Likes: 2
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 46,253 Likes: 2 |
10-roger........keep the pressure on 'em Gunner
Trump Won!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,148 Likes: 2
Campfire 'Bwana
|
OP
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,148 Likes: 2 |
Interesting aside on the .338-284. I had an Alpha Arms std. grade in .270. I saw this gun in the Collectors Firearms listing. They'd had it a while and I convinced the dealer that he was going to have a real hard time selling a wildcat gun to anyone but a hard core gun nut/reloader like me. The Alpha Alaskan listed for a good bit more than the std. gun. The dealer agreed and we did a straight up swap. All was good until I discovered the .338 had a broken firing pin. It hadn't been fired but evidently had been snapped a bunch. Alpha went out of business years ago with no parts available. Because I liked the gun so much, I got gunmaker, James Flynn, to make a firing pin. Check him out on line, you'll be impressed.
James restores vintage, high end guns for clients all over the world and makes parts for H&H's, Purdy's, etc, so an Alpha Arms firing pin was no challenge for him. He made and properly hardened the new part, which is much better designed and made than the original. Because I grew up shooting with James, he took pity on the pricing and I came out OK.
DF
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,148 Likes: 2
Campfire 'Bwana
|
OP
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,148 Likes: 2 |
Forgot to add that the .338-284 was an Alpha Arms option back then and this gun is factory original. It is a neat design, the stock with aluminum bedding blocks. The action screws are before and behind the mag box, with the trigger group and tang floating. The receiver is a threaded tube and the bolt is fat with three lugs recessed, machined much like the Mark V Weatherby. The part that receives the lugs (lug recess) is screwed into the receiver, followed by the barrel and is jammed in place by the barrel. I guess this made manufacture easier, but I've not seen that set up on any other rifle. Seems to work.
Nice guns. Too bad Alpha Arms ceased to exist. They were located near Dallas.
DF
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 48,109 Likes: 11
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 48,109 Likes: 11 |
Well, all this 9.3 talk made me go out and buy a nice CZ 550 chambered in this great old round.....Thanks guys.....
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
|
|
|
|
612 members (270cowboy, 1lessdog, 12344mag, 2500HD, 1234, 1_deuce, 61 invisible),
2,384
guests, and
1,191
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,192,522
Posts18,491,050
Members73,972
|
Most Online11,491 Jul 7th, 2023
|
|
|
|