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SCOTUS appointments are reason enough to vote for Romney. Get ready for another Justice Souter, then.
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HugAJAckass,
You're naive, m'man.
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For those of the naive supporting Romney because of likely court appointments, research is essential. Romney has a record of nominating extremely liberal candidates: http://www.wnd.com/2012/01/romney-judicial-record-liberals-running-wild/In fact, there is very little difference in ideology between Obama and Oromney. If my choice is between these two clowns, I ain't votin'!
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You gotta be awfully damned naive to even remotely believe Romney supports the Second Amendment. With either clown, your gun rights will become more eroded if not outright disappear: http://www.thepoliticalguide.com/Pr.../Mitt_Romney/Views/The_Second_Amendment/If the choice is Obama or Oromney, I don't care who wins!
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Pugs,
What proof do you have of alleged problems in the meat packing industry of the era in which Sinclair penned his novel? Do you really believe that public policy should be based upon a novel?
If I have wrote that you're a neocon it's because you have provided proof that you are. And believe me, I know what a neocon is. Read Leo Strauss, the father of neoconservativism.
I don't give a crap about what's occurring 10 miles off our coast or half way around the world. I only care about real threats to our country. When real threats occur, then we will vanquish them.
Like all industrial nations of the era, a strong nave was crucial to assure trade, not to engage in warfare.
Of course you have to believe that Ron Paul and his supporters have no idea how to improve our nation while restoring freedom. You have to believe such nonsense otherwise you'd have to admit you're clueless.
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This is a perfect example of why I cannot stand Romney. His actions are inconsistent with his words. In other words, he will say anything to become president, and those who ought not be allowed to vote rush to throw in with him not realizing that they're sealing their fate. It amazing how many gun owners are advocating support for a gun-grabbing, neocon liar when they ought to be demanding a brokered convention whereby a legitimate conservative is nominated. Obama and Oromney are two peas in a pod: http://veracitystew.com/2012/04/16/...ntrol-record-plays-footsie-with-the-nra/
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17ACKLETBEE,
Any high school kid could have contributed that. Now prove Paul wrong like I have have proved Romney a liberal neocon who's in the Obama pod listening to Leo Strauss' pod casts.
17ACKLEYBEE, when our Founding Fathers decided to restrict suffrage, they had potential voters like you in mind. You ought not be allowed anywhere near a voting precinct!
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I am completely bewildered how any gun owner and Second Amendment defender could even remotely suggest supporting Oromney for anything let alone president: http://www.ontheissues.org/mitt_romney.htm#Gun_ControlVote for Oromney and say adios to the Second Amendment! Go brokered or we will go broke!
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Maybe because gun control legislation would have to come from the new Tea Party/Conservative Congress?
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“In Trump We Trust.” Right????
SOMEBODY please tell TRH that Netanyahu NEVER said "Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away."
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Maybe because gun control legislation would have to come from the new Tea Party/Conservative Congress?
Not true. George H.W. Bush, by mere executive order fiat, outlawed the importation and domestic sale of all sorts of firearms manufactured or imported after a certain date. That's when, for example, the price of HK91s went from about $600.00 to about $3,000 dollars.
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All you need to do is look at his record as governor of Massachusetts. He will say what he thinks will get him nominated and elected. What he will do is best predicted by his actual record, e.g., anti-gun, anti-free market, pro-regulation, pro-big government, pro-banker, etc. TRH, you of all people know where I'm going to go with that comment... If you applied this same standard to Reagan while he was Governor of California you'd be calling him a RINO and no different than Obama. Everybody knows that this is just laughable
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What's really sad is that Obama has a better Second Amendment record than does Oromney. And seminar posters here want us to throw in with Oromney. We might as well throw away our guns.
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HugAJAckass,
Reagan's tenure as CA's governor is not comparable with Romney's. It is unreasonable and illogical to compare the two. The only reason you would want to is to justify support for Oromney.
If you now the definition of neocon you'd know Reagan was the complete opposite.
Your deception is necessary in order to dupe voters into throwing in with Oromney and throwing away their freedoms and guns.
I ain't buying it.
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Again, Reagan was worse as Gov of California, yet he is hailed as one of the best 2nd Amendment Presidents of our lifetime. As the Supreme Court recently reaffirmed, the Second Amendment protects one of the American people�s most basic and fundamental individual rights: �the Right to Keep and Bear Arms.� The Second Amendment is essential to the functioning of our free society. Mitt strongly supports the right of all law-abiding Americans to exercise their constitutionally protected right to own firearms and to use them for lawful purposes, including hunting, recreational shooting, self-defense, and the protection of family and property.
Like the majority of Americans, Mitt does not believe that the United States needs additional laws that restrict the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms. He believes in the safe and responsible ownership and use of firearms and the right to lawfully manufacture and sell firearms and ammunition. He also recognizes the extraordinary number of jobs and other economic benefits that are produced by hunting, recreational shooting, and the firearms and ammunition industry, not the least of which is to fund wildlife and habitat conservation.
Mitt will enforce the laws already on the books and punish, to the fullest extent of the law, criminals who misuse firearms to commit crimes. But he does not support adding more laws and regulations that do nothing more than burden law-abiding citizens while being ignored by criminals. Mitt will also provide law enforcement with the proper and effective resources they need to deter, apprehend, and punish criminals.
As governor of Massachusetts, Mitt was proud to support legislation that expanded the rights of gun owners. He worked hard to advance the ability of law-abiding citizens to purchase and own firearms, while opposing liberal desires to create bureaucracy intended to burden gun owners and sportsmen. As governor, he also designated May 7th as �The Right to Bear Arms Day� in Massachusetts to honor law-abiding citizens and their right to �use firearms in defense of their families, persons, and property for all lawful purposes, including common defense.�
As president, Mitt will work to expand and enhance access and opportunities for Americans to hunt, shoot, and protect their families, homes and property, and he will fight the battle on all fronts to protect and promote the Second Amendment. Yup! Sounds JUST like somebody who wants to take away our guns....  Really man, this is too easy. You can just come clean and say that you're just butt hurt that Ron Paul didn't win, and now you want to be childish and pick up your toys to go home. Cute.
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HugAJackass,
It's not that Paul didn't win, it's the freedom is losing. And make no mistake, you're delusional if you believe we're a free people. We live in a nanny state in which our lives are controlled 24/7 by our nanny masters.
Why don't you buy a cigar that's not approved by ATF and see where that gets you? AFT, your nanny, will tell you what cigars are approved for your smoking pleasure. It'll also tell you what guns and ammo you can buy, and what adult beverage you can enjoy.
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HugAJAckass,
Reagan's tenure as CA's governor is not comparable with Romney's. Why? We all know that Reagan was the best Conservative to hold the office of the President. That's just fact. He's a personal hero to me in many ways. Yet, as Governor he outright banned weapons, tampered with healthcare, doubled the debt, and raised taxes in the state more than all the other Governors before him. If he was running now, and you used the SAME litmus test that you are using for Romney, then you'd be calling him White Obama. There is no question in my mind that Reagan continued to move to the right during his entire career in politics. The fact is, he didn't start that way. Romney has been following the exact same path. To say that that is the same thing Obama has been doing is ludicrous. As to my reasoning for this discussion is that I want to see Obama and all that he and his leftist ilk stand for wiped out in a landslide to send a message to the socialist ideologues that they are no longer accepted here. You're new here so I'm trying to cut you some slack. I've met my share of Campfire guys in person, and I've been talking everything from God, guns, and politics here for a while. To allude that I'm some sort of seminar guy is just ignorant. It's no small secret around here that I was actively against Romney in the Primary and voted against him here in Alabama. I'm no lackey with a hard on for the guy. I'm just not stupid enough to fall for the Ron Paul crowd mantra that Romney and Obama are the same ideologues. That's just ridiculous! The facts are the facts man, and Romney is no socialist. Obama certainly is.
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If you applied this same standard to Reagan while he was Governor of California you'd be calling him a RINO and no different than Obama. Everybody knows that this is just laughable
Reagan's record as governor was that of a man becoming increasingly conservative.
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Reagan did it as Governor of California! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulford_ActI'll post this again because you seem to have problems reading it... As the Supreme Court recently reaffirmed, the Second Amendment protects one of the American people�s most basic and fundamental individual rights: �the Right to Keep and Bear Arms.� The Second Amendment is essential to the functioning of our free society. Mitt strongly supports the right of all law-abiding Americans to exercise their constitutionally protected right to own firearms and to use them for lawful purposes, including hunting, recreational shooting, self-defense, and the protection of family and property.
Like the majority of Americans, Mitt does not believe that the United States needs additional laws that restrict the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms. He believes in the safe and responsible ownership and use of firearms and the right to lawfully manufacture and sell firearms and ammunition. He also recognizes the extraordinary number of jobs and other economic benefits that are produced by hunting, recreational shooting, and the firearms and ammunition industry, not the least of which is to fund wildlife and habitat conservation.
Mitt will enforce the laws already on the books and punish, to the fullest extent of the law, criminals who misuse firearms to commit crimes. But he does not support adding more laws and regulations that do nothing more than burden law-abiding citizens while being ignored by criminals. Mitt will also provide law enforcement with the proper and effective resources they need to deter, apprehend, and punish criminals.
As governor of Massachusetts, Mitt was proud to support legislation that expanded the rights of gun owners. He worked hard to advance the ability of law-abiding citizens to purchase and own firearms, while opposing liberal desires to create bureaucracy intended to burden gun owners and sportsmen. As governor, he also designated May 7th as �The Right to Bear Arms Day� in Massachusetts to honor law-abiding citizens and their right to �use firearms in defense of their families, persons, and property for all lawful purposes, including common defense.�
As president, Mitt will work to expand and enhance access and opportunities for Americans to hunt, shoot, and protect their families, homes and property, and he will fight the battle on all fronts to protect and promote the Second Amendment.
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If you applied this same standard to Reagan while he was Governor of California you'd be calling him a RINO and no different than Obama. Everybody knows that this is just laughable
Reagan's record as governor was that of a man becoming increasingly conservative. Likewise with Romney
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