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So you think someone like Ron Paul would do well?
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I am voting for him and you should too, that is all I have to say about Mitt Romney.
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So you think someone like Ron Paul would do well? He had tremendous appeal to the Goldwater/Reagan type base of the party, and scored highest in polls with the independents. Not only that, he would have drawn from the Democrats those dissatisfied by Obama on the issues of the police state, the war on drugs, the undue influence of Wall Street banks over our government, the war on terror, foreign interventionism, the Military/Industrial Complex, etc. To me, that clearly spells a Reagan-style landslide.
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We will agree to disagree. I like Ron Paul, but in my opinion he would not do well in a general election.
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We will agree to disagree. I like Ron Paul, but in my opinion he would not do well in a general election. I don't think Romney's going to do well in the general election either.
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Reagan was my first presidential election. I personally observed this dynamic take place when he became the Republican candidate. The enthusiasm of the conservative base was palpable, and I saw how this inspired curiosity on the part of the ordinarily non-political, and eventually spreading to them.
I thought Reagan was a conservative Democrat turned moderate Republican who kicked Jimmy Carter's azz because Carter was a horrible President. But, that election was before I could vote.
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Reagan was my first presidential election. I personally observed this dynamic take place when he became the Republican candidate. The enthusiasm of the conservative base was palpable, and I saw how this inspired curiosity on the part of the ordinarily non-political, and eventually spreading to them.
I thought Reagan was a conservative Democrat turned moderate Republican who kicked Jimmy Carter's azz because Carter was a horrible President. But, that election was before I could vote. Reagan was a liberal that obeyed his masters.
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Reagan was my first presidential election. I personally observed this dynamic take place when he became the Republican candidate. The enthusiasm of the conservative base was palpable, and I saw how this inspired curiosity on the part of the ordinarily non-political, and eventually spreading to them.
I thought Reagan was a conservative Democrat turned moderate Republican who kicked Jimmy Carter's azz because Carter was a horrible President. But, that election was before I could vote. Nope. You're way off. I guess because you're too young to remember. Reagan was the inheritor of the Barry Goldwater mantle. He was a huge Goldwater supporter, and when Goldwater lost his bid, the Goldwater movement put Reagan in his place, essentially. It was the Goldwater movement that eventually got Reagan the nomination. The establishment Republicans hated Reagan's guts, and were embarrassed by him the way they were by Goldwater. They thought authentic American conservatism was pedestrian and out of touch with the modern world. They resisted his rise almost to the same degree they've been working against Ron Paul, but Reagan had a personality that could overcome that effort.
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We will agree to disagree. I like Ron Paul, but in my opinion he would not do well in a general election. I don't think Romney's going to do well in the general election either. I do. He'll kick zero's butt back to Kenya.
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I don't think Romney's going to do well in the general election either. Why? He's moderate enough to attract a lot of independents and not hard-core enough to rally Obama's base. The right is going to come out and vote. Whether it's for Romney, against Obama, or both, they're hitting the polls. In my mind, that sets Mitt up pretty well. All he has to do is pick a sensible running mate and stay on point from now until November. I have a feeling that Barry will not handle the pressure well (he doesn't have the same level of media love he had in '08) and we all know that Biden is a gaffe machine.
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Nope. You're way off. I guess because you're too young to remember. Reagan was the inheritor of the Barry Goldwater mantle. I'm fairly surprised you still buy into the Reagan fairytale. He grew the gov't at a rate never seen before in history. He RAISED taxes, look it up. The Brady bill. Amnesty for illegals. That aint no conservative. I found him to be a likeable sort, but make no mistake, he was just a statist with good hair and some charm. He was so senile by the end I can't really fault him for the last few years of his presidency, but it is what it is.
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I just saw it!
We're playing tag here! lol
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He wants your vote for his blind ambition. For him becoming president is just a trophy nothing more...no heroic attempt to serve the country. Both parties are playing for 'one and the same owner' and that is not the country or the populace. You may be right about his ambition. However, the dude has always taken great pride in every thing he has ever done. For that reason, I suspect that he will try to be the very best President that he can be. His ego won't allow otherwise. What I said about Romney is my take from listening to him speak without presenting a platform. In the OP I asked what you can say about him. Hug, you're the only one to give some reason to support a vote. What you said had crossed my mind. Cheese and rice Charlie, how much of a platform do you want? He has a detailed, highly praised, sophisticated economic recovery plan. On day one he will begin the evisceration and repeal of Obamacare. He has promised an immediate 5% reduction in discretionary federal spending. Yes, he has secret plans for cutting and eliminating agencies---but disclosing those plans would immediately call forth opposition from the soon to be eliminated or gutted special interests. He has promised to repeal Dodd-Frank, to repeal Obama's massive regulatory over-burden. I could go on and on. There is massive, pro-growth, smaller government, low-tax policy (with tons of substantive details) in his platform. Me thinks you just refuse to see it. Jordan
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Nope. You're way off. I guess because you're too young to remember. Reagan was the inheritor of the Barry Goldwater mantle. I'm fairly surprised you still buy into the Reagan fairytale. He grew the gov't at a rate never seen before in history. He RAISED taxes, look it up. The Brady bill. Amnesty for illegals. That aint no conservative. I found him to be a likeable sort, but make no mistake, he was just a statist with good hair and some charm. He was so senile by the end I can't really fault him for the last few years of his presidency, but it is what it is. Pretty much the truth I'm afraid. Likeable, long on rhetoric but short on actual results.
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Everyday the thug from Kenya who only felt at home in Chitcago digs himself a little deeper hole. Say bah bye berry.
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Well from reading the many discussions here...very little. More often than not the "he is not my 1st choice but..." is the cry. After that since no more can be said of the man it is followed by something bad said about the other guy. What a pitiful state of affairs! ABO
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I saw a poll the other day where the people liked Romney better than Ron Paul. Wait a minute, I am mistaken, it was not a poll but a vote. miles
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I would be less concerned about a Romney SCOTUS nominee than I would be an Odumma nominee. Actually, I'm scared schittless that he managed to get two of his PoS socialist nominees onto the court.
So "All Hail Romney......... the lesser evil".
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Nope. You're way off. I guess because you're too young to remember. Reagan was the inheritor of the Barry Goldwater mantle. I'm fairly surprised you still buy into the Reagan fairytale. He grew the gov't at a rate never seen before in history. He RAISED taxes, look it up. The Brady bill. Amnesty for illegals. That aint no conservative. I found him to be a likeable sort, but make no mistake, he was just a statist with good hair and some charm. He was so senile by the end I can't really fault him for the last few years of his presidency, but it is what it is. Look it up and you will find the name �Tip O'Neill� you left that part of the fairy tale out. And the pesky little fact that top federal income-tax was cut from 70 down to 50 percent. Wars are expensive, even cold ones, and winning wars are exponentially expensive. Add in the cost of doing business with Tip and his gang. Despite all that�GDP under Reagan grew at over 9 percent�.the CCI went way up to 90...Reagan�s third year, August 1983 saw 278,000 new jobs as unemployment dropped�price of gas dropped�gold dropped 33 percent. If that is your idea of a fairytale, we could sure some more of it next year. Fairytale? Reagan won reelection in 1984, 525 Electoral votes to Mondale�s 13. Some fairytale. And you are flat wrong about Reagan being senile in office. In 1989, I was 52 years old and that did not happen. I was there. Reagan was diagnosed with Alzheimer�s five years later in 1994 and died ten years after that.
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