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Like the title says. I'm beyond ticked at my governor, Republican Mary Fallin. A few months ago she issued an Executive Order banning the use of all tobacco products on state property, including in your vehicles parked on state property. We are not just talking about state employees, but ANYONE on ANY state property, including Wildlife Management Areas, lakes, parks, fairgrounds...everything!
I don't care if tobacco is bad for you or not. I don't care if you use tobacco or not. Who the heck does she think she is making an executive order like this?
I'm all for not imposing things on others, and I think having a designated tobacco use area outside away from entrances to buildings is plenty fair. This is a common sense approach that accomadates pretty much everyone, but what she has done crosses the line.
Now I'm having a dilemma. I am 39 years old and have always been a registered Republican and voted as such. I have to be honest, at this time I am seriously considering voting democtatic in the next Oklahoma governor's race just to send a message! Again, who the heck does she think she is????
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Next, she's gonna take your sodi pops.
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Like the title says. I'm beyond ticked at my governor, Republican Mary Fallin. A few months ago she issued an Executive Order banning the use of all tobacco products on state property, including in your vehicles parked on state property. We are not just talking about state employees, but ANYONE on ANY state property, including Wildlife Management Areas, lakes, parks, fairgrounds...everything!
I don't care if tobacco is bad for you or not. I don't care if you use tobacco or not. Who the heck does she think she is making an executive order like this?
I'm all for not imposing things on others, and I think having a designated tobacco use area outside away from entrances to buildings is plenty fair. This is a common sense approach that accomadates pretty much everyone, but what she has done crosses the line.
Now I'm having a dilemma. I am 39 years old and have always been a registered Republican and voted as such. I have to be honest, at this time I am seriously considering voting democtatic in the next Oklahoma governor's race just to send a message! Again, who the heck does she think she is???? What's the feed back from the rest of the people in the state? Just go buy a box of Nicotine gum when your on State property, until the next election.
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Yep! And before long your daughters and then your grandaughters will required to get on birth control the moment they begin puberty so they won't got pregnant and pass that cost on to taxpayers.
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I've heard very little feedback on this, which amazes me. It shouldn't, but it does.
I guess it won't be long now until we all start calling each other "comrade."
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that was a stupid move on her part, but she does a great many good works on illegal immigration and SD/Castle Doctrine, Pro gun laws.
So She's not all bad.
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that was a stupid move on her part, but she does a great many good works on illegal immigration and SD/Castle Doctrine, Pro gun laws.
So She's not all bad.
Gunner [bleep] her. That was beyond a stupid move on her part, and demonstrates the glaring hypocricy within the mainstream Republican party. Car exhaust is also bad for us, is it not? Whatcha wanna bet she would strongly oppose any new legislation or EPA requirements that added any additional cost to the manufacture of cars in order to reduce emmissions!!!!
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I understand your anger and frustration OkBowman, but i would rather swallow my snuff and have the freedom to keep a pistol in my pocket to protect my family and others should the need arise.
And to do so in a state without the fear of prosecution.
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I understand that. Of course I consider the 2nd Amendment paramount. However, if we allow "small" freedoms to be taken away how long can we expect to have the 2nd Amendment rights we now have?
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I understand your anger and frustration OkBowman, but i would rather swallow my snuff and have the freedom to keep a pistol in my pocket to protect my family and others should the need arise. No reason not to have both freedoms. miles
Look out for number 1, don't step in number 2.
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You are correct, and she needs to immediately let it be known this kind of behavior will cost her votes in the next election, and to refrain from, or better yet 86 this BS statute, and stick to important issues that matter.
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As a country we have moved progressively left over the last 40 years. Why is this? There has been a back and forth shift in power between the Republicans and the Demcorats. Of course the Democrats always take things left, but why haven't Republicans move things back to the right when they get into power? It's because of chit like this. We all know that the Democrate party has moved left, but crap like this demonstrates how the Republican party has too. Therefore the center has shifted to the left, and we all suffer the consequences, both economically and socially, with an ever pervasive and meddling government, with the ever subsequent eroding of freedoms and liberties.
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Blind support of the "R", no matter their record, is why we gets what we gets so often.
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Well, maybe ya need to start thinking about moving to Chicago.
The Mayans had it right. If you�re going to predict the future, it�s best to aim far beyond your life expectancy, lest you wind up red-faced in a bunker overstocked with Spam and ammo.
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And it's the general pussification of the American male, the liberals of all political affiliates, and the bleeding heart whine-bags are precisely the reason we haven't dropped a 30 pack of Truman bombs and put an end to these BS wars, and sent the proper message to the rest of the world,
DONT F-CK WITH THE U.S.A.
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Like the title says. I'm beyond ticked at my governor, Republican Mary Fallin. A few months ago she issued an Executive Order banning the use of all tobacco products on state property, including in your vehicles parked on state property. We are not just talking about state employees, but ANYONE on ANY state property, including Wildlife Management Areas, lakes, parks, fairgrounds...everything!
I don't care if tobacco is bad for you or not. I don't care if you use tobacco or not. Who the heck does she think she is making an executive order like this?
I'm all for not imposing things on others, and I think having a designated tobacco use area outside away from entrances to buildings is plenty fair. This is a common sense approach that accomadates pretty much everyone, but what she has done crosses the line.
Now I'm having a dilemma. I am 39 years old and have always been a registered Republican and voted as such. I have to be honest, at this time I am seriously considering voting democtatic in the next Oklahoma governor's race just to send a message! Again, who the heck does she think she is???? I hope you call her office and give her the same rant as you're giving here.. SHE needs to hear it - from you, and everyone else who's offended by it.. Get enough people riled up and maybe she'll get the hint and rescind the order..
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You are correct, and she needs to immediately let it be known this kind of behavior will cost her votes in the next election, and to refrain from, or better yet 86 this BS statute, and stick to important issues that matter.
Gunner I have made up my mind. She will either 86 it or I will vote for her opposition, WHOEVER THAT IS, come next election. PERIOD! It's that simple. I will not support someone who professes being a conservative and is adamantly opposed to a big meddling governement, yet is so quick to take away an individual freedom, especially throught he use of an Executive Order (GEEZE...even the name of that make me tense up...."order." Who does she thinks she is issuing me, or anyone for that matter, an order)! I will send the message that this type of government interference will not be tolerated, even by Republicans. If Republicans are hell bent on taking freedoms away too then I'd just assume vote Democrat and speed up this conversion to socialism instead of dragging it out like we're doing now!
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That is happening today....through the use phone calls, letters, and emails.
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As a country we have moved progressively left over the last 40 years. Why is this? There has been a back and forth shift in power between the Republicans and the Demcorats. Of course the Democrats always take things left, but why haven't Republicans move things back to the right when they get into power? It's because of chit like this. We all know that the Democrate party has moved left, but crap like this demonstrates how the Republican party has too. Therefore the center has shifted to the left, and we all suffer the consequences, both economically and socially, with an ever pervasive and meddling government, with the ever subsequent eroding of freedoms and liberties. I love Oklahoma, have many relatives there, spend a significant amount of time there and in fact, will be there tomorrow. Y'alls politics down there are superior to Kansas'. I don't agree with Fallin. All that said, I get tired of smelling somebody's cigarette when I go someplace. If I get our lawn chairs positioned at my son's ball game and then some scrounger comes up and fires up a cancer stick, I get to do it all over again in an inferior place, if I can even find one. Secondhand smoke has been linked to cancer, so it is not all just not wanting to smell some dude's rancid [bleep] he's sucking on. Again, I disagree, but lots of smokers are pretty aggressive, thinking you want to inhale their carcinogens.
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Like the title says. I'm beyond ticked at my governor, Republican Mary Fallin. A few months ago she issued an Executive Order banning the use of all tobacco products on state property, including in your vehicles parked on state property. We are not just talking about state employees, but ANYONE on ANY state property, including Wildlife Management Areas, lakes, parks, fairgrounds...everything!
I don't care if tobacco is bad for you or not. I don't care if you use tobacco or not. Who the heck does she think she is making an executive order like this?
I'm all for not imposing things on others, and I think having a designated tobacco use area outside away from entrances to buildings is plenty fair. This is a common sense approach that accomadates pretty much everyone, but what she has done crosses the line.
Now I'm having a dilemma. I am 39 years old and have always been a registered Republican and voted as such. I have to be honest, at this time I am seriously considering voting democtatic in the next Oklahoma governor's race just to send a message! Again, who the heck does she think she is???? I hope you call her office and give her the same rant as you're giving here.. SHE needs to hear it - from you, and everyone else who's offended by it.. Get enough people riled up and maybe she'll get the hint and rescind the order.. I realize tobacco may be pretty important to a lot of folks, but how is voting to send a message on that smallish issue any different than a Paul voter who can't stomach Romney voting for a Libertarian or some such to send a message? To me the only difference is degree and the Paulista has a lot more to gripe about than the Okie Governor's stance on this one issue. I'll be voting for Romney come November because I have to Cowboy up and do the best thing for our country and our freedoms.
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