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gosh, what could possibly have happened some time after January 2001 that would make that humble foreign policy stuff kind of ridiculous? think hard....you'll remember.

Now now Steve, you know the Paulista's think the oceans protect us from all harm. Don't go confusing them with facts. It will hurt their empty little heads.

(quote= SAcharlie)I for one understand that healthcare needed reform but it appears that reform was again over taken by special interests; not good.
All the rest I have no way of knowing when the mantra, of the republican controlled house, is "our job is to make sure that Obama is a one term president".

Can you stay with the OP and say something about Romney? [/quote


Sorry Charlie!
Double speak but still no answer for Obamas good programs and policies. GW

Steve,

To repeal Obamacare, the Republicans are going to need 60 in the senate. It ain't gunna happen. If the Court doesn't find it unconstitutional, we're screwed.

One aspect you ought not forget is that many Republicans were initially for Obamacare. In fact, many Republicans jumped on "...our medical care system is broken," bandwagon. There was nothing wrong with our health care system. There was something fatally wrong with funding it. Medicare & prescription drug benefits are a 100 trillion dollar unfunded liability. It is not sustainable. However, politicians don't have the fortitude to roll back entitlements that supplicants, er, I mean too many Americans believe are rightfully theirs. Therefore, in lieu of finding new jobs, politicians placed blame on delivery. Knowing what a tremendous burden these entitlements are on our budget, I am fairly certain that Republicans would have passed a similar law but with a more friendly title. Either way, those of us who have worked to earn good quality medical care will have it compromised in order to keep entitlements afloat. We're being taxed and our health care will be compromised in order to fund entitlements.

Steve_No, what we have to do is distinguish between campaign promises and what will likely occur. Romney was fond of appointing liberal judges, so if his M.O. is any indicator of what he's likely to do, I wouldn't expect him to appoint conservative judges.

I don't think any candidate other than Paul will drill baby, drill. There's too much old money tied up in foreign oil to allow it to happen. Somehow, foreign oil influence has to be truncated. I wouldn't hold my breath awaiting Romney to drill baby, drill. You gotta know where the money's coming from in order to predict what will happen.

The only budget I have seen that I really like is Paul's proposed budget. However, Ryan's ain't half-bad. A president can proposed any budget. Whether congress approves it is another matter entirely. Keep entitlements in mind. Politicians know that we're living our Founding Fathers & Tocqueville's prediction: Americans vote themselves largess to the detriment of the survival of our nation.

Steve_No, unless we get our fiscal house in order, we're not much longer as the greatest nation this world has ever known. It will require a true leader who'll shoot straight. Except for those on it or so close to retirement that it would be unconscionable to deny them, Social Security has got to go. It's a Ponzi scheme that cannot last much longer. So does Medicare and prescription drug benefits, which was a Republican boondoggle. We must stop fighting stupid wars where no threat to America exists. However, there's big money in warfare. We must close our borders, something Republicans won't do. After all, they need all the workers they can get to fund Social Security. The current ratio of workers to receivers of about 2.1:1 is not sustainable. The UN has got to go. We don't need it. It has eroded our sovereignty. And the Fed has got to go.

The bottom line is you want us to believe that Romney is going to deliver the goods. I ain't buying it. He's a big government, neocon elitist who'll say anything to become president. He didn't become governor of the most liberal state in the nation because he was conservative.

I can see it. I hope you can, too.


Hasta Luego,

R

Here is the list of obama good policies:























Impressive!

oldtimer,

Please tell me what exactly about our health care needed reforming?

We have the best health care in the world. It might soon be available to only the elite.


Take care,

R

some of you boys can't seem to grasp the difference between being governor of Mass and president of the United States.

Romney has been a financial supporter and active member of the Federalist Society for many years. Do you know who is running the group vetting judges for him right now....and yes, they're already making the lists? It's Robert Bork. That should calm your worries about judges.

That was Charlies remarks not mine. I agree with you. GW

Steve_No,

The hurdle you'll have to overcome in defending Romney is Romney.

There is not a thing about him that I trust.

I am still praying for a brokered convention, which might be more likely that you'll want to accept. If it's obvious that Romney can't whip Obama, look for a brokered convention.

Rumor has it that many delegates are about to mutiny Romney's ship.

R

oldtimer,

Sorry about my error. Thanks for setting me straight.

Let's see if Charlie will enlighten me.


Thanks,

R

fixed it for you. it's one thing to argue that RP is right and everybody else is wrong....that's an opinion, and everybody is entitled to have one. but this continuing self-delusion about who has won the nomination, and who lost every primary, badly, is just kind of pathetic.

Steve_No,

This is YOUR argument, not mine. I know who has most Republican delegates. My argument is about the survival of our nation. You want me to believe Romney will deliver us. You have yet to sell me anything that I am willing to buy.

If anyone is delusional, it's you. You haven't a clue about how precarious our economy is. And like a tail wagging a dog, our economy wags our government. If our country is to survive, we will need a true leader who will do all that's necessary to right our badly listing ship. And the first place to start is cutting entitlement spending. We need real tax cuts. Which brings to mind a recent funny comment of Romney about his illusory tax cuts on the rich.

I will never play the class warfare game. If you have studied the French and Russian revolutions you know why.

The federal bureaucracy has got to be given a shave. We have too many federal workers enforcing too many laws that impede economic growth and enslave us.

We need but one czar: the cut-the-hell-outta-bureaucracy czar. I'd suspect he'd be working lots of O/T.

Steve_No, we are mired in the worst depression since the Great Depression. Do you really believe Romney is going to deliver us?


R

I understand ya boys are having a hard time with it but try real hard and say something about ROMNEY besides "he is not my 1st choice but...".

there is going to be an election between Romney and Obama in November. not between Obama and your heartthrob.

yes, it would be good if we had a Congress that would cut back the federal government more than the Ryan budget. It would be nice if the democrats weren't such slimes, and if they had less than 40 votes in the Senate. but part of being a grownup is recognizing the reality of a situation and dealing with it.

if we all had unicorns to ride, we wouldn't have to put up with the TSA...and I'm all for that, too. but this election is between two guys.....you can pick one, or you can whine that your man isn't on the ballot.

Like Ron Paul, a man that has been in Washington for years and years and has done nothing but pull a little pork to Texas? Surely you jest. miles

YES spit in one hand & wish in the other.

Only about 5 more months of this, then we can count chads, count or not count military votes, find entire precincts worth of votes in the trunk of cars, oops, found some more in courthouse basement. Count votes until bammy wins or martial law is declared. This guy ain't just gonna walk away. Sorry.

Well, at least you're out in the open in your conviction that traditional conservatism is ridiculous.

To repeal Obamacare the 2013 Senate will not need 60 votes only a majority.
Romney has made that his number one core issue and like I have said�he ain�t gonna pick a fight with the new Conservative Senate.

I am still waiting for someone to show me why he would do that�

Anybody that thinks that the Republicans won�t have that majority hasn�t been paying attention.

Anybody that thinks that 2012 will not be another wave election just like 2010 hasn�t been paying attention to what just happened in Wisconsin.

Anybody that still thinks here in Missouri it is still a tossup hasn�t been paying attention. We have two strong contenders, either Steelman or Brunner will be showing McCaskill the door and she will have to move quick to not let it hit in the ass.

The list goes on�