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Can anyone recommend a good optic or tactical sight for an AR? I can't afford the high dollar stuff---like Trijicon or Elcan. What else is out there that is bullet-proof and price reasonable?

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Burris XTR 1-4X, about $700. It that is too pricey I'd look at the cheaper imported Burris 1-4x or maybe a Vortex

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Get an Aimpoint. You can get the H-1 for around $450. It's small and light, works great, and is indestructible. Or you could go for the Aimpoint PRO. It's larger an slightly heavier, but can be had for around $375. Also indestructible.

I would also look around for these used. If you know it's a real one anyway. They last forever, Aimpoint doesn't care about who bought it first and will honor their warranty with or without receipt, and of course will save you a few bucks.

Don't buy crap. You'll end up being frustrated and spending more money anyway.


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@ the the $300-up level - Burris AR scope, any of the Leupold or Nikon AR series

@ the $150-up level - the Nikon P-223's are very nice. Used Leupold

@ the $125-up level - the Primary arms stuff is OK as to scopes, but heavy, their dot sights are very nice

@ the sub-$125 mark, just get a good set of irons and learn to use 'em



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The budgets people have on here confuse me, a lot of the time...
Not OP's, but the responses.

Get a Bushnell TRS-25 or a Primary Arms Micro. Have 2 Bushnells, on an AR and AK. Never had any problems of any sort.

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All people are different. Some like to buy the best quality they can, some buy cheap, some like to buy the most products they can. Whatever floats your boat. I say Aimpoint for red dot or one of the new 1-6's that various companies are releasing this year for a scope.


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I like quality stuff but I don't throw money away, nor do I buy the most expensive item. I buy what works for me. H1 Micro and ML3 Aimpoints, VX3 and MK4 Leupolds for optics so I don't have their top of the line stuff either.

Chinese knock offs are fine for some but not me.

Cheap always winds up costing more in the long run.

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Value's very different than cheap. I'm not saying to buy a Barska or NCStar. The TRS and PA Micro are both excellent sights, and if he's asking for a good value in an optic, I think that's much more up his alley than $300+.

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I remember everyone talking up some chinese 9 power compact binos from cameraland. I bit and placed an order only to have to send the cheap junk back, ordered Swarovki SLC'c from them and consider it money well spent.

I also have a pair of imported Leupold Yosemete's that I leave in the truck and use for loaners but I know what they are and they ain't my primary.

The title of the thread could read airsoft stuff but I won't reccomend cheap stuff.

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Can anyone tell me how to verify that an Aimpoint is the real deal and not a forgery? Have a used beat up M2 that I think is the real deal, but I would like to know for sure.


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Get a Millett DMS 1-4x24mm with an illuminated reticle. Mine is great on my carbine.


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I have a Bushnell TRS-25 that I got as an experiment. At ~$100 might be worth it, right? I put it on my marlin 45-70 (I have Leupold or Aimpoint on the rifles I'd trust my life to). After about a year and a half of good service (minus some wierdism adjusting it), it got bumped or something and now the front lens is kicked in on one side. Don't know when, I just noticed it one day. POA now appears to be a couple of feet to the left at 10 yards. Haven't gotten out to the range to verify that, but it looks WAY off. After a trip to the range to verify it is messed up, I'll see if Bushnell will give me a warranty replacement, which I will promptly turn around and try to sell NIB for ~$80. Lesson learned.

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Originally Posted by lithian
Can anyone tell me how to verify that an Aimpoint is the real deal and not a forgery? Have a used beat up M2 that I think is the real deal, but I would like to know for sure.


They tell me one of the best way's to tell is if the logo is recessed in the case it's probably real. Most of the fakes have the logo screen printed on the side. Another way is to turn it on, if it's still running three years later it's probably the real deal wink

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And you want to stay on a budget?

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Originally Posted by lithian
Can anyone tell me how to verify that an Aimpoint is the real deal and not a forgery? Have a used beat up M2 that I think is the real deal, but I would like to know for sure.




Get an Ultra Dot instead, they are less mney and are tougher to boot. The Ultra Dot's will hold up to the recoil of the 475 Linebaugh revolvers and the Aimpoints will not




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Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by lithian
Can anyone tell me how to verify that an Aimpoint is the real deal and not a forgery? Have a used beat up M2 that I think is the real deal, but I would like to know for sure.




Get an Ultra Dot instead, they are less mney and are tougher to boot. The Ultra Dot's will hold up to the recoil of the 475 Linebaugh revolvers and the Aimpoints will not



Im guessing you havent seen the DDM4 torture test video.
If the ultra dot is cheaper and tougher, why dont you see more of them?


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Originally Posted by CBMJR
Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by lithian
Can anyone tell me how to verify that an Aimpoint is the real deal and not a forgery? Have a used beat up M2 that I think is the real deal, but I would like to know for sure.




Get an Ultra Dot instead, they are less mney and are tougher to boot. The Ultra Dot's will hold up to the recoil of the 475 Linebaugh revolvers and the Aimpoints will not



Im guessing you havent seen the DDM4 torture test video.
If the ultra dot is cheaper and tougher, why dont you see more of them?



I would not call a M-4 much of a tortur test for optics, since the recoil is minimal


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THe piece on the base of the ring that broke from reciol, but the Ultra Dot was unfased

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PLace an Aimpoint on thise big bore revolvers and the Aimpoint will fail, now that is an optics torture test


The Ultr Dots just keep on ticking after taking a licking.


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I used to know a guy that had one of the ultradots on a 475 Linebaugh, they are the real deal, I shot his pistol a couple of times (that was enough for me).


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The recoil isnt what I was referring to. It was the drop from the helicopter and other abuse they put it through. They are tough and pair very well with AR platform rifles.


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They are most certainly not as tough as an Ultra Dot, I know this first hand



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