|
|
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,845
Campfire Regular
|
OP
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,845 |
want to take it to 1300yds. What's some real life ballistics on these calibers. It'll be my first 7mm. Always been a 6.5mm guy. Pros and cons of both. Fireforming isn't really a con to me. Aleast not enough to play in the descision. Twist rate recommended on both too also..
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 11,273
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 11,273 |
Long or short action? Hunting style or dedicated heavy rig?
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,210
Campfire Tracker
|
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,210 |
Flip a coin, both work great.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 674
Campfire Regular
|
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 674 |
1 in 9 twist with a 162 A-Max will get you around 1500 yds with a muzzle velocity of 3000 fps.
Shod
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,845
Campfire Regular
|
|
OP
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,845 |
heavy rig used out of box stand for whitetail.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 674
Campfire Regular
|
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 674 |
Summitsitter, Nosler makes 280 ai brass so you don't have to fireform. Will you be having a rifle built by a Smith or do you intend on buying off the shelf, Kimber, Nosler custom, etc. Do you have an existing action etc.
Shod
Last edited by Shod; 06/27/12.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,845
Campfire Regular
|
|
OP
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,845 |
I plan on building it myself. Gonna use a LA 700 either way. Will have to open BF and maybe feed rails for wsm but will be able to seat the long bullets way out.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 14,536 Likes: 3
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 14,536 Likes: 3 |
You'll be able to get some great velocity out of the 7WSM if you throat a chamber long with that LA mag. The new 195gr Berger EOL bullet is coming out soon, and that would be an absolute missile from the 7WSM at 2900+fps, with a predicted G1 BC of 0.794  Can't go wrong either way, but if you're pushing it to 1300+ yards, I'd probably neck down Norma .300WSM brass to 7WSM and go.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 28,277
Campfire Ranger
|
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 28,277 |
Jordo-you reckon would need to run a 30 or a 40" tube to safely get 2900 with a 195 out of a WSM case...  Dober
"True respect starts with the way you treat others, and it is earned over a lifetime of demonstrating kindness, honor and dignity"....Tony Dungy
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 35,900
Campfire 'Bwana
|
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 35,900 |
LA Rem 700? I know what I'd use.... 
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 2,437
Campfire Regular
|
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 2,437 |
Jordo-you reckon would need to run a 30 or a 40" tube to safely get 2900 with a 195 out of a WSM case... Dober Yup.. you are gonna need a 30" tube.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 11,273
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 11,273 |
LA Rem 700? I know what I'd use.... Yep, I'd be all over the 7 Remmy, slam dunk.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 32,044
Campfire 'Bwana
|
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 32,044 |
Personally i would build the 280 Ack over the 7mm WSM, with that said save yourself some trouble and get a 7mm Remington Magnum it will out do both.
A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 28,277
Campfire Ranger
|
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 28,277 |
LA Rem 700? I know what I'd use.... Me 2, and I know that Tanner's dreaming about the same thing. Dober
"True respect starts with the way you treat others, and it is earned over a lifetime of demonstrating kindness, honor and dignity"....Tony Dungy
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 11,273
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 11,273 |
LA Rem 700? I know what I'd use.... Me 2, and I know that Tanner's dreaming about the same thing. Dober Oh shoot, I know what you old boys are thinking... 
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 35,900
Campfire 'Bwana
|
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 35,900 |
Personally i would build the 280 Ack over the 7mm WSM, with that said save yourself some trouble and get a 7mm Remington Magnum it will out do both. Bea and Tanner are closing in on it...... 
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 14,536 Likes: 3
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 14,536 Likes: 3 |
Jordo-you reckon would need to run a 30 or a 40" tube to safely get 2900 with a 195 out of a WSM case... Dober Dober, It's purely speculation, but I see guys getting 3050fps out of the 180gr Berger, so I figure 2900fps should be doable with a 195gr bullet of similar design and bearing surface. Once the bullet hits the market, I guess we'll see what's actually achievable, and with different barrel lengths. Or somebody could just run it through QL For a purely LR rifle, designed to shoot out to 1500+ yards, a 30" barrel wouldn't be the end of the world. But you're not gonna want to do much still hunting with it!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 14,536 Likes: 3
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 14,536 Likes: 3 |
I just had a novel idea- you could always just run a 7mm Mashburn Super Mag and drive those 195gr Berger bullets at 3000fps for a true LR hammer. I know I'm thinking outside the box here, compared to the rest of the guys on this thread, but give it a thunk and thank me later...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 35,900
Campfire 'Bwana
|
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 35,900 |
I just had a novel idea- you could always just run a 7mm Mashburn Super Mag and drive those 195gr Berger bullets at 3000fps for a true LR hammer. I know I'm thinking outside the box here, compared to the rest of the guys on this thread, but give it a thunk and thank me later... Heehee! Jordan got it.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,538
Campfire Regular
|
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,538 |
284 Shehane with 180g Berger Hunting VLDs at 2950fps from a 28-30" 1-9 twisted barrel.
|
|
|
|
|
549 members (1minute, 1badf350, 219 Wasp, 222Sako, 007FJ, 1_deuce, 57 invisible),
2,329
guests, and
1,231
robots. |
|
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,193,032
Posts18,500,580
Members73,986
| |
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023
|
|
|
|
