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Both of you are NUTS,.....

I'm going to be quite comfortable with 240 grain charges, and a patched RB.

Nonetheless building the old pelter to handle heavier, if needs be.

OK,.....I'm kinda' interested in those "Speedloaders".

Ya'll do a bunch of speed before chargin' em' up,....or WTF ?

Sheet Metal Shears Trigger Guard is stalled, T$ts up. Hadfield (Managanese Steel) is not "annealing" VERY WELL,.....and IMPOSSIBLE to machine by sane personnel.

If I were going to plow gravel, or crush rocks with a trigger guard, ....I would continue forging,......

Will post a pic of the finished attempt,.....a purportedly "Huge" bronze TG is lurking in the wings,....so the "All Iron" intent may well go into the toilet. Hell , it will save replacing that buttplate.

GTC

GTC

Coming along right nice like Cross I have ran my rifle up to 400 grs 2F Swiss, even though safe, it's really stupid and completely unnecessary my standard load is 300 grs. 2F Swiss and a pure lead pillow ticked patched RB.

Have only used it on one game animal, a little 10 point basket racked WT deer, 20 yds through both shoulders and DRT, not a twitch.

That is more than enough for all NA game IMHO.

Gunner

300grs. ????? gives new meaning to the phrase hand cannon.dang.

Oh hell no FH, these are shoulder fired cannons, if some one were to seriously build an 8-bore pistol and fire it with 300 gn 2FG, they would be picking the pistol up out of the dining room floor.

Thats after I flew through the idiots skull that fired it AND the wall of the house

Gunner

very cool. i'm a rather large boned man so i would like to take the challenge of firing that monster bore.

Go back to page 4 and look below Crosses work and see two of my homemade speedloaders with an '06 round between 'em.

To give ya an idea on the recoil to expect, a 375 H&H provides 39.5 FT LBS free recoil in a 9.5 lb rifle firing factory loaded 300 gn bullets @2550 fps.

My 8-Bore firing an 850 gn round ball in a ten pound rifle @1400 fps will boot ya with 189 FT LBS free recoil, nearly five times harder than the H&H, something ya really gotta EASE into Bro

Gunner

nice.!

YBYA it's nice...........nice to have B.C. powders and a cold long neck B-Wiser afterwards

And I didnt even run the numbers on the 400 gr charge load, that was just plain [bleep] stupid of me to pull the trigger on that HELLFIRE BISH

I contacted the maker and wanted the "Proof" load, it proofed alright.

Gunner

i'm dying laughing right now.

I thought I was gonna die laughing to when I touched off that 400 gr charge. [bleep], that sombish rocked me.

Gunner

An Old friend rescued me from any further forging and beating on that almost IMPOSSIBLY tough 'Shear Handle TG'. In a box of assorted rubble, I found a nice old original bronze Trigger Guard. I've no idea as to what it was originally fitted to, but the styling suggests a big Flintlock musket.



Shown here sweated onto the new trigger plate. One can see the .500 X .600 " block that's drilled off vertical center to the ramrod tubes .375" I.D.,......than counterbored and sweated to a slightly reduced dia. end on the tube. This provided just over .100" of material to drill and tap to 10-32 machine screw threads. Given that the "block" discussed intersects with and "Keys" against the hooked breech lower section, and with the block and tube now glassed in,....the entire rifle is now tied together fore and aft with STEEL, as opposed to the original wood. I shamlessly copied this basic concept from the Sharps '74 setup, a STOUT way to assemble a rifle.

In the course of this rebuild not a single wood screw has been applied, so far.



Looks like there'll maybe be a short fat wood screw catching the tail of that guard.

That gun would be great for loading with about 30gr of powder and shooting full PBR cans serving the patrons at the local hillbilly bar.... Be like a Lamberts Cafe but bar style......

Nice work on that Greg.

Lookin' real GOOD Cross, congrats on the new TG.

Gunner

If (when?) I spool up a fresh stock,.....it'll be changed out for something a little less martial, and a lot more "Sporty",....think Alex Henry,Rigby,Gibbs and such. It'll do for the time being, though.

Got a tech tip,......no flame on Brownells, ....BUT.

If you're a fan of Brownells "Force 44" low temp Silver Solder,....you're paying over TWICE as much for what Harris Welco sells under the name 'Staybright'. Would not be surprised but that the Brownells product IS HW in source. Nice for general gun work in the classic mode,....ribs, small non critical joints, etc.

Damned if I can call out the high temp / high strength solution,....there are so many out there.

GTC

Looking good.

Poking around on the Mill this AM, With the Hyraulic Tube 'Spine' relieved transversely to it's ID, there's a TON of room for a good big dovetailed barrel underlug / Wedge Gudgeon



The wedge will be carved out of an old (Bent) ejector pin I salvaged years ago whilst millwrighting a 600 tom IM press in Tucson. The "Flea Market Special" brass punches will become the "Wedge plates / Estucheons".

That's really coming together nicely!
Dang, I need another project!!

Hey Cross, do you have enough steel left, or have ya considered milling a wedding band on the barrel where the octagon and round meet?

Lots of old British Bore Rifles had them, and so does mine, just thought I'd pass that along to ya, kind of a cool little addition.

Gunner

By golly, ve got dose 'Mine Readers' here now, Sven !

Ya,.....JUST enough,......it will lay just inside of a poured pewter nose cap,.......

this old pelter is starting to look like Johny Cash's "one piece at a time" car,.......all sortsa' mixed up crap from different eras mixed and matched into a strong, serviceable gun.

Sometimes it's just fun to dig through old junk and BUILD something, eh ?

Ole says, "Vait 'til I mount the picaninny rail and ACOG sight dere, Sven"