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My Amigo just sent these over,.....

125 gr 1FG Elephant behind 840 gr patched slug



Versus 250 Gr same, behind same

YEEHAW, you damn right Cross, thats what its all about

I shoot 300 gr in mine, but I'm bettin there aint nothing walkin' that can receive a hit from that 840/250 gr load and walk.

Gunner

You guys are certifiable nuts.

Now Crowrifle, yer spose to be tellin' us something we dont know.

Gunner

I'm thinking that the thing will shoot "Softer" with a properly sized patched RB. I reckon the provisional projos we're tossing right now (Patched 12 Ga. 2 Oz.)are kind wadding up and generating lotsa' "drag". The interior of that old iron barrel is kinda' rough and WILL get honed. Given that the bore's already at .873", I kinda expect that once honed clean we'll have a "7 3/4 Bore". For a 13 pound gun, it's not THAT unmanageable. Didn't shoot it enough with the cannon grade, but I kinda' thought it was a different recoil cycle, and the report maybe "boomier" .

I like these big suckers,.....want one with those twisty marks on the inside of the tube.

GTC

LOL Cross, and ya probably already know this but a Bud had a 6 Bore rifle with a bit of a rough bore, he coated some patches with JB Bore compound, within twenty shots, that sombuck was shining like new nickels.

IIRC he wound up using cut Denim patches saturated with Natural Lube 1000, does a helluva job, I need to find out what he did with that rifle.

Gunner

If you're looking for an argument, you need to find another crowd!

We're not just nuts, we're LOONIES!

Shooting smallbores like a .458WM, and moving up from there, brings out the silliness in grown men. It must rattle all logic and common sense, as well as numbing certain anatomical features for it to happen, but happen it does!

I'll agree with Greg, the Cannon Grade made a distinctly different sound than the Swiss Fg. Not sure if recoil was worse, as Ken said his lips went numb...

How does one measure lip-numbness to ascertain changes in recoil levels?

Ed

Figured I'd put up a pic or two of another potential full grown BPML "Bruiser". This is the butt end of a 20MM barrel that I've had around here forever. Going by the gain twist pattern evident (The riflings start out DEAD straight, and spool up in a nice sine wave).



I figure if I can get an industrial chrome shop to "deplate" the chamber area, there'll be adequate room for a good set of breeching threads, and with the remainder of the original chamber properly sleeved to Groove Dia., a BIG powder chamber area.

Doubt seriously that BP pressures will phase the ordnance steel that this thing is hammered outta', and the hard chromed bore is as tough as bloody nails.



I think this is the core component of a NICE "12 Bore" Round ball and Conical Slug rig.

I think it would make a dandy scale field piece, say something modeled on a Parrot gun on a suitable carriage?

Hard cast 12ga slug to grip that rifling, pushed around 2000fps.

Ought to hit that rock on the mountain behind the silhouette range there at SV!

Ed

You've got a point, a fellow could "Sleeve" that barrel into any replica profile he chose,......and come up with a handsome scale model,.....the problem is, the damn thing is obviously gonna be WAY to big to shoot off a bench,.......so running it would subtend to crawling around on the ground like an animal.

.....that has no appeal, BDDT.

I've smacked that big rock MANY times over the years, with the 1 3/4, and the 2 1/4" RB guns........It's about 540 yards, wish it were further.

GTC

You could move the firing point back to the Skeet Range. That would make it further.

Or even back to the highway!

Ed

Nice work Cross, .45 cal. 230 gr Remington Golden Sabers?

Gunner

nope

I know, I know, I know!!!

Looking good, Greg! I wouldn't worry much about the San Pedro Valley Hippo as much as I would the dreaded Sierra Vista Croc-a-Gator. With a head at each end and no rectum, they are an irritable, smelly, fearsome beast!

I'm pretty sure I smelled one while I was visiting, but it could have just been gas after the Pico de Gallo.

Ed

Last guess surely those aren't the old .458 500 gr. Speer African Grand Slams with their Tungsten cores poking out the bottom of the bullet?

Gunner

Nope,.......

they are spent 9 Parabellum hulls, poured full of Bullet alloy, and fired out of some sorta' "375". The rims are HEAVILY engraved, .366 / .376 ", six groove rifling.

Picked em' up below the 100Yd. steel swingers recently,....

Looks like whoever is shooting em' is not being cheap with the powder, either.

Intriguing, but I can't even BEGIN to think what kinda fouling cartridge brass would leave in one's bore.

GTC

Ken has told awhile back about Charlie O'Neil using .45 Auto brass filled with lead to make big "wadcutters" to use in his big .475 OKH(.375 H&H with the taper blown out and necked .475")

Busy, yesterday, friends dropping by, and work in the orchard. Fitted the "composite" under rib / thimble,.....and have figured how to do one of these as a one piece part next time around.



Tech Tip......In the absence of "Soldering Talc", welder's soapstone does a fair job.Pictured in use here to "Seal" the downside of the solder joint. That side of the barrel stayed remarkably clean



Found an old S. African coin, with a rather Greco Roman looking Buffalo raising hell. It's a bit narrow, and will change it out for something a little bit wider. Looks like the rear sight will probably be a Winchester "BuckHorn" style, as used on their lever guns.

Smilin' here Greg, nice work.