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Tough to beat a 225 for an all around boolit
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It's like a fn pringles comercial...."you can't just stop at one".....My 338's have loved these bullets: 1. 210 gr. nosler partition 2. 225 gr. hornady interlock 3. 250 gr. Sierra gameking.... Take your pick as they all work  ...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Well I've decided to go with 225gr accubonds for hunting and 225gr sst's for practice. I do the same in my 7mm rem mag. 160gr accubonds for hunting and 162gr ssts for practice.
Thanks for all the advice.
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210 or 225 gr Partition if limited to one type bullet in the 338. The Elk i have taken with my 338-06 Ack have all been with the Swift 210 Scirocco and Rel 15
A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.
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Glad you got that sorted out, where are you going and where's your elk hunt at?
Dober
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No elk this year. Next year, lord willing. This year I am hunting moose in Manitoba, Canada.
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That's gonna be a great hunt, I'm thinking Ontario in 2013 for Marvin the Moose for me.
Who are you going with?
I'm gonna go with Mattice Lake Lodge in Ontario.
Dober
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Well I've decided to go with 225gr accubonds for hunting and 225gr sst's for practice. I do the same in my 7mm rem mag. 160gr accubonds for hunting and 162gr ssts for practice.
Thanks for all the advice. This makes NO sense to me as they dont have the same POI (at least in my rifles). Guess I have a different POV in 338 bullet's.....The 300grSMK has never let me down
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Hey, Mark, I'm still willing to partner on an Ontario moose run!
“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.”
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That 210 gr Partition hits like Thor's hammer! The most impressive kills I ever saw was with them.
Good Shooting!
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The thread asked "one" bullet and its a concept I buy into. I'd practice and hunt that "one".
I've never seen the 338 as picky or prone to wild POI's mixing different ogives and boat tails at 200 or 100 yds., but past 400 yards on targets or vermin, its going to hurt more than help. If shooting really far, I'd also want consistency on the Chrony; one load will get you more of that with a fee that's worth it.
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Rock chuck,
Agreed. They shot differently in my rifle too, required different seating depths and when placed side by side, the two bullets are not even close on the same shape. If you are going to practice shooting at 600 yards I would think it might be preferable to shoot the same bullet for practice and the real deal.
Just my 0.02 worth ;-)
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Good day.
Assuming your rifle shoots both the 185gr ttsx at ~3150fps and the 225 accubond at ~2800fps, very accurately, and lets say I'd like to KISS and only use one bullet for whitetail, mule deer, moose and elk, which bullet would you use? Fps/ft lbs are pretty much the same at 600 yards (bout as far as this rig would be used for). 1900fps or so at 600 yards, what would expansion be like from both? Terminal results of shooting a swamp donkey at ~50 yards? Up the butt if has to be done?
I realize there are many many excellent bullets for the 338 but since I have eye surgery coming up I don't have a lot of time to fart around testing a bunch of different bullets. I need to test these two, as I believe they are excellent bullets, pick the one that shoots best and load up 40 bullets for September.
Thank you
EDIT: I am also open to suggestions of a different bullet if there is one out there for my needs. I have shot several hundred of those 225 Accubonds, out to 650 yards, from a .338. They are an extremely accurate and consistent bullet in my experience. They are what I load my .338 with for elk. I have not yet killed one with that particular Accubond. I don't know anything about that TSX. I am routinely humbled by wind at long range, and since you mention shooting to 600 yards, I'd add that I will choose a bullet for best wind-bucking as long as I think the terminal performance will be satisfactory. To that end, I made you this chart.  ![[Linked Image]](http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r111/handwired/65574fb8.jpg)
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Jeff am I reading that chart correctly, that there is about a 4" difference in drift between the two bullets at 600 yards?
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Ten at 900. oops, sorry Bob.  I believe you are correct on the chart reading!
Last edited by HawkI; 07/25/12. Reason: fuggup
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Yup...guess I am reading it right. Thanks Hawk.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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I've only used a 338 once on a critter past 400 yards, nowhere close to 600, with a 250 Party. I think turrets would help immensely, but at that time I used subtension and a holdover; throwing in a different pill with a slight POI diff and a certain velocity diff is one too many pins to juggle.
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Yes Bob, that'd be about right. I see now that the chart doesn't say, but that's a 10 mph wind at full value. That 4" extra drift has more negative bearing than might be immediately obvious. When you consider that winds are usually variable, and can be hard to judge for a numbnuts like me anyways, it can be said to increase the "cone of uncertainty" (which sounds absurd) but basically the difference between the two is the difference in area between two circles-- so its not linear. The Accubond being the smaller circle in this case. I think.
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If I just did my pi are squared's right the the area the a 225 AB could be moved around by a 0-10 mph wind is ~75% the size of the area of the TTSX.
Whereas 25" is roughly 90% of 29".
Ouch. That hurt.
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JB, I'm on the road a bit tomorrow I'll give you a call and we can cuss and discuss a trip for Marvin.
Dober
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