Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Custom Rifles & Wildcats McMillan Stocks vs. HS Precision Stocks

I am saving my money to have a custom rifle built. I read posts here often that rate McMillan as the best. I read alot of negative posts about HS Precision stocks, but I never read (Why?) the HS Precision stocks are not as good as McMillan. So, please tell me why McMillan is better than HS Precision.

Thanks,
lcwil1

The fit, finish, design, function, "handling", and overall quality of the McMillan is just that much better than the HS Precision.

End result of having a better product: likely better accuracy, definitely better handling, almost certain to handle recoil better, and, if it gets sold, a higher resale value.

That should about cover it.

The HS has a foam core.

The McMillan is layered fiberglass through and through.

Makes a big difference in stiffness.

GB

I have both hs and mcmillan stocks.The mcmillan are sexier than the hs but I have had excellent results with the hs. Keep in mind that the number of positive or negative replies is also related to the number of stocks out there.HS had stocked remington varmints synthetics for years by the thousands.A skim bidding job in an hs will also often improve the performance just as the bedding of a mcmillan.

What VAnimrod said: +10. I've had both-if you have average size hands I'd say you'd like the McMillan grip better than HS. From the ones I've weighed they are lighter as well (light fill).

I just bought an HS Precision stock for my REM 700 BDL/SS (338WM) from MidwayUSA. I am sending it back. It made the rifle very nose heavy. The balance moved from the recoil lug up about 3 inches. I did not like it. The quality of the stock was good, I just didn't like the balance. I have not had a McSwirly but I would save for one of those. Just my opinion - we all have one...

RH

I have both. They are both sturdy, accurate platforms. The difference to me is in the fit and feel. I like the HS Sendero stock for shooting from bags or a rest and the McMillans better for shooting off hand.

If I were building a long range praire dog rifle I could use an HS varmint stock, save some money over the cost of a McMillan and be very happy.

Hs ergonomics are horrific, and tend to amplify recoil. The aluminum bedding blocks are just an un-needed added expense, as they still need to be bedded. HS stocks are routinely heavier than they need to be (I think that HS knows that their stocks suck at controlling recoil, so add weight to mitigate).

Did I mention that the ergonomics suck on HS Precision stocks?

CAS, with you 100%...

I've always likened the HS ergonomics to a 2x4.

Reminds me of my Desert Eagle 44 and that ain't high praise.................(grin)

Can't stand my HS from the bench, or, offhand!

She now hold's a much coveted spot in the corner of my garage.

Huntr

I'd dump it on ebay to an unsuspecting soul... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Ever notice how second-hand H&S stocks get about 50% of the new price, and second-hand Mickys get about 90-95%.

There's a reason for that.

The grip, for whatever reason, just doesn't feel comfortable in my hand + I don't care for the texture or feel of the material they use to make them.

I kind of like the Desert Eagle.... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

Here is a stock maker you might want to look at. I even prefer them over Mcmillan because they are lighter yet made just as well.
They wont chip as well.

http://www.rimrockstocks.com/

RH, You gotta be [bleep]' me, I put an H-S sporter stock on my BDL S/S 708 bout 3yrs ago and it balanced the rifle out just fine compared to the tupperware stock Remington puts on them rifles. Don't know how one can go from a lightweight tupperware stock, to a heavier H-S stock and the balance point moves forward. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
Ergonomics and grip angle felt about as good as it's going to get, with any stock! I would never trade that H-S stock on that rifle for a Mcmillan. Plus the rifle shoots so damn good, and it's not bedded.
Stick, All I can is, you must have the nicest feeling 2x4s up in AK. Oh, and how much is Kelly paying you to say all this crap about H-S stocks? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> You guys can have your Mac stocks, I'm using H-S, they work just perfect for me. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
But, I would like to have one on hand so I could compare felt recoil differences. Just put a H-S on my model 70 '06, if I could get a Mac stock to borrow I'd be willing to compare, don't think Kelly would loan me one, though. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
If I really felt less recoil I might be willing to sell the H-S stock. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Believe me, my arthritis would tell me right away. JAG

I've owned a half dozen or so HS and probally 2 dozen McMillans. For me the McMillan is superior because it offers many more & different styles, is not as heavy, is more durable, has a much better drop in fit, soaks up recoil better, has a wide array of colors in paint and molded in, has checkering available, and most important to me feels and handles better in my hands! Having said all that HS is still a good aftermarket stock IF it fits properly which I have had lots of trouble with. IMO McMillan is a cut above. 163bc

FAQ from Mcmillan:

25. How much do the stocks weigh? Generally, our hunting and sporting stocks all weigh 2 to 2.25 pounds. We do have the ability to achieve a specific target weight if additional weight is required. Our tactical and high power competition stocks are designed to be heavier. Since there are several factors that influence the final weight, such as the accessories you choose, each stock will vary in weight. In general, tactical and high power competition stocks weigh between 2.75 and 4.5 pounds.

H-S Precision stock:

Materials:
� Woven Kevlar� cloth
� Woven fiberglass cloth
� Uni-directional carbon fiber
� Epoxy-based gel coat and laminating resin
� Reaction injection molded (machine mixed) polyurethane foam, fiberglass reinforced
� Proprietary CNC machined aluminum bedding block chassissystem, designed by H-S Precision

Kevlar is a Registered Trademark of E.I. Dupont.
Features:
�
Non-reflective, non-slip baked-on polyurethane finish
� Uncle Mike�s sling swivel studs
� Uncle Mike�s Ultra-Mag recoil pad
� Weight � 2.25 pounds, sporter and varmint styles; 3.5 � 5 pounds, long-range style.

JAGOFF,

I'm not kidding and I'm employed by USN not Kelly. I'm pretty easy to please as long as the stock is balanced. I couldn't quite believe it myself so I put it away in the gunsafe for a couple of days and came back too it. Same result. I then put the original stock back on it to check the balance. It was back where it belonged. The only way I can see that the fulcrum point moved was a much heavier forearm. If you noticed, I liked the stock jusn not the balance.

RH