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On some of these rounds, like in .38 Special, I will try and repeat the round with a different barrel length. Since most of the rounds are geared toward defensive shooting revolver barrels generally won't be over 4" and semis over 5". The .38 Super with the 7" barrel was included as I wanted to know how much more velocity some of the rounds gained over a 4.25 and 5"...
If anyone has any requests I'll try and find that gun/ammo...10mm may be a little hard to find but most of the other calibers I can borrow...
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I have a comment. Sunrich Organic Soymilk...really? 
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.45s are coming...I was going to shoot today but my friend's wife is home sick so no shooting near the house today...
JOG...it's good Chit....mixed with protean powder, frozen strawberries and non-fat yogurt it makes a one-glass breakfast.
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I was purusing a lyman reloading book yesterday, and was looking at a 115grain .357sig load running slighting over 1500fps. I am going to have to try that. When i get a chance i am going to do again what you have been doing with the old speer flying ashtray bullet.
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nice results
Any chance of trying Hornady Critical Duty?
I have switched my Critical Defense carry loads to the Duty ones based on Hornady's tests and those form gun rags.
I wish I could shoot outdoors and run the tests myself.
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I'll see what I can find in the shooters group I belong to.....
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If you want to or care to test some SERIOUS loads for the P3AT you showed in the tests I will sned you a couple of Buffalo Bore 100gr HCFN loads that chronograph FASTER than the Powr ball 70 that you tested. 1100 fps+ out of my P3AT. MAybe also a Buffalo Bore 90gr Gold Dot at 1250 for giggles and such.
INteresting test, thanks for doing it and putting up the photos.
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Test #12 S&W Model 57 .41 Magnum Remington 175 grain SJHP 1357 fps Blew up the carton and jug #1. Found fully expanded in Jug #2...too bad Remington no longer makes this round. ![[Linked Image]](http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b77/RJM52/Handguns/DSCF4574.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b77/RJM52/Handguns/DSCF4575.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b77/RJM52/Handguns/DSCF4577.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b77/RJM52/Handguns/DSCF4578.jpg)
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That 41 load there is a close aproximation of my 10mm Auto handload. I am shooting a 180 Gold Dot at 1375. Looks like if it were to hit a bad guy, it might leave a mark...
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I shoot the 175 JHC in my 4" M-57 41 @ 1536 FPS, I don't think that a 10mm will get there. The 41 has more juice than a 10mm
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The speer gold dot has picture perfect expansion. Neat to see. Thank you for doing these tests and sharing.
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Nobody lists any pressure tested loads for either rounds that reach those levels. Sierra, for instance, lists 1450 fps. with four different powders out of a 6 inch gun for the .41 Magnum with their 170 gr. HP. Accurate Arms does list 1705 fps. with 19.7 grs. of AA#9, but that's out of a 9.5 inch pressure barrel w/o any clynder gap.
Speer lists 1295 fps. with their 180 gr. GD with Blue Dot powder, but Alliant, who makes Blue Dot powder lists the same powder at .6 grs. less for 1220 fps. Accurate Arms list the Speer GD at 1290 fps. as well. E
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I was going to do more tests to post yesterday but when I got down there I realized I had left the cartons at home...so I helped my friend run some fencing instead...hopefully I'll be able to run another batch of tests by Saturday....
One of the loads to be tested is the .41 Magnum 170 Sierra with 26.0 grains of H110....it is up in the 1400s from a 4"...
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I shoot the 175 JHC in my 4" M-57 41 @ 1536 FPS, I don't think that a 10mm will get there. The 41 has more juice than a 10mm
I did not say that my 10mm handloads were equal to or superior to any and all 41 Magnum loads, handloaded or otherwise. I merely stated that my handloads were nigh unto identical to THOSE loads, as tested by our illustriopus bullet tester, and they are. That was all. Certainly with heavy bullets especially the 41 MAgnum would leave a 10mm auto in the dust fairly soon. That was not the point. As to a 175JHC at 1536, with my 10mm I don't even want to try. 1375 is plenty for me and mine. Matches many 41 Rem factory loads and most handloads in that cartridge, or at least close enough for me. Just sold a 41 Magnum Mountain gun Smith&Wesson in SS. Even with the Mountain gun contour barrel it was heavier and much thicker than my Colt 10mm.
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Bob,
I was hoping to see how many milk jugs a Berry's 210 would penetrate when fired from that pretty little Smith'.
Based upon my observations of a few years ago, you might need a longer frame on your bullet catcher, or make use of that ballistic panel.
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IS...once I get done with the HPs and can get a bunch of jugs together I plan some tests with FMJs and hard cast bullets without the milk carton as it would be a waste. My friend has 4 kids so the jugs accumulate pretty quick...
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Test #13 S&W Model 57 .41 Magnum Remington 210 JSP 1319 fps Exploded carton and split open Jug #1. Punched a hole through Jugs 2, 3 and 4 and punched through the vest cover.. ![[Linked Image]](http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b77/RJM52/Handguns/DSCF4616.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b77/RJM52/Handguns/DSCF4617.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b77/RJM52/Handguns/DSCF4618.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b77/RJM52/Handguns/DSCF4619.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b77/RJM52/Handguns/DSCF4620.jpg)
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My shooting assistant for the day...my friend's son... Don't think he is 75 pounds soaking wet but he loves to shoot... He had never shot a .41 Magnum before...this is with 175 Silvertips... ![[Linked Image]](http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b77/RJM52/Handguns/DSCF4640.jpg) ....since he didn't think the recoil was too bad the .500 was next up.... ![[Linked Image]](http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b77/RJM52/Handguns/DSCF4641.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b77/RJM52/Handguns/DSCF4644.jpg) Bob
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I shoot the 175 JHC in my 4" M-57 41 @ 1536 FPS, I don't think that a 10mm will get there. The 41 has more juice than a 10mm
I did not say that my 10mm handloads were equal to or superior to any and all 41 Magnum loads, handloaded or otherwise. I merely stated that my handloads were nigh unto identical to THOSE loads, as tested by our illustriopus bullet tester, and they are. That was all. Certainly with heavy bullets especially the 41 MAgnum would leave a 10mm auto in the dust fairly soon. That was not the point. As to a 175JHC at 1536, with my 10mm I don't even want to try. 1375 is plenty for me and mine. Matches many 41 Rem factory loads and most handloads in that cartridge, or at least close enough for me. Just sold a 41 Magnum Mountain gun Smith&Wesson in SS. Even with the Mountain gun contour barrel it was heavier and much thicker than my Colt 10mm. Look at the 41 test above, the 41 has more penetration and desrtuctiveness than any 10mm
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