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Ever shot a bottle full of water? That's what heart is like. Like I said, shoot a round through a dead animal and then necropsy the wound path - 1/2" hole.
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Ever shot a bottle full of water? That's what heart is like.... Uh, I don't think so.
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He's never gonna get it... Maybe we're gonna all have to start doing more water jug huntin' I've killed several feral hogs and a deer with my 45acp LBT bullet load. It's a 230gr WFN hard cast bullet going 1050 fps. On the deer, no heart left & a 3" exit wound. On a couple of hogs, it broke both shoulders with about a 4" exit hole. One Boar I shot with that same load, while he was running at me at 25 yards after I stuck a arrow all the way though him. The 45 bullet went through both front & back of the skull, though his heart & 1 lung, & ended up back in his intestines. He had a 2" wound channel all the way to where the bullet stopped. Damn lucky shot, IMO. I should have taken photos
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If I feel I need more 'power' than I have with a .45 Colt 250 grain hard cast LSWC at 900fps, then I'll reach for a rifle. Well that's a pointless post if there ever was one. Travis
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Ever shot a bottle full of water? That's what heart is like. Like I said, shoot a round through a dead animal and then necropsy the wound path - 1/2" hole. Dead animal tissue does not r-eact the same when shot as does live tissue with flowing blood. Experienced people know this FACT Keep posting you are good for a laugh
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Ever shot a bottle full of water? That's what heart is like. Like I said, shoot a round through a dead animal and then necropsy the wound path - 1/2" hole. I'll take that as a firm "no." So, does that mean you are actually going to get out there and test your theories? And don't shoot dead animals, shoot 'em when they are alive.
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Here is a pic of a cast wound channel of a live animal at the shot.Clearly this 45 opened up the channel to larger than a half inch. This result was not a accident but the norm. It's a 300gr wfn at a moderate 1150fps.
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Maybe he meant a metric half-inch?
Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Ever shot a bottle full of water? That's what heart is like. Like I said, shoot a round through a dead animal and then necropsy the wound path - 1/2" hole. I'll take that as a firm "no." So, does that mean you are actually going to get out there and test your theories? And don't shoot dead animals, shoot 'em when they are alive. Morning Whitworth, I was going to go to Alaska and see if I could kill a brown bear with a handgun. But instead I'm just gonna shoot some milk jugs and save $20K. Glad I read this thread. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Good morning to you! Yeah, maybe we should start an outfitting business -- dangerous milk jug hunts.......good grief, where do folks come up with this stuff? Obviously not from observation.
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I was gonna run out to the range and kill a "cape buffalo" with my Delta, but it is gone to the smith.
Oh well, maybe next week.
Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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I was gonna run out to the range and kill a "cape buffalo" with my Delta, but it is gone to the smith.
Oh well, maybe next week.
Travis Go ahead on Travis, I'm gonna rope and saddle up on a Rhino to kill my next Cape Buffler LOL And GFY and have a wonderful day too. Gunner
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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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My pleasure, good neighbor. Gunner
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Will these be open range milk jugs? I won't hunt high fenced milk jogs.
The first time I shot myself in the head...
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Will these be open range milk jugs? I won't hunt high fenced milk jogs. [bleep]' snob. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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I'm no expert on handgun anything, but even with the lowly 45 ACP and 230 gr flat point FMJ's at 950 fps, will put a lot larger than 1/2" hole through dead, sick and dying cattle that I have shot. Studying the bullet wounds always bears this out, and when bone is hit, it grows even more, and the little 45 ACP with the above mentioned load will way overpenetrate more than most folks may think. Gunner
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I am torn, I always believed more speed is more... till you stop hitting the target.
My go to Blackhawk load is Standard SAAMI� 250g HC bullet at 1000+/- ft/sec
I have never shot anything but paper but I always thought it would do.
BUT
My M92 round is a 250g Speer Deepcurl at 1100 ft/sec� Not clocked but I think cause of the bbl length it will be closer to 1200 ft/sec
So all that said if I need more than my M92 I will go to my 450M 400g bullet at 1900Ft/sec
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That which does not kill us makes us stronger
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Will these be open range milk jugs? I won't hunt high fenced milk jogs. [bleep]' snob. Travis You guys are killen me!!!
That which does not kill us makes us stronger
Friedrich Nietzsche
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I used to feel the same way Snake, but I've found that something moving three football fields per sec running into something moving zero football fields per sec. just gets it's stuffing permanently blown outta the bullets way. I still hunt and shoot the 454C with a 335 gr LBT at 1585 fps, and a silly lookin 500 S&W with it's 440 gr LBT at an easy 1385 fps, but the 45 ACP and especially my old Colt 45 SAA with the 270 Thunderheads @900 really lays a meat and bone displacing pop on critters up close. Gunner
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