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You�re welcome to point fingers elsewhere, but I suggest that Sako has the correct answer.


No, they don't. The right answer is to own up to your mistakes, and publicize the he## out of the recall, so people don't get their fingers blown off.

There are still 20 rifles out there that are not accounted for, and any and all problems from here on out lie solely on Beretta's conscencience.

This is one of the few times I can see a good reason for lawyers. I hope no more failures occur, but if they do, I hope the injured party gets a lawyer with the exact same moral standards Beretta has. I would expect them to take Beretta for every single penny possible; their reprehensible and immoral response to the problem almost requires it. JMO, Dutch.


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No, they don't. The right answer is to own up to your mistakes, and publicize the he## out of the recall, so people don't get their fingers blown off.

There are still 20 rifles out there that are not accounted for, and any and all problems from here on out lie solely on Beretta's conscencience.

This is one of the few times I can see a good reason for lawyers. I hope no more failures occur, but if they do, I hope the injured party gets a lawyer with the exact same moral standards Beretta has. I would expect them to take Beretta for every single penny possible; their reprehensible and immoral response to the problem almost requires it. JMO, Dutch.



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I agree completely. My comment was specifically about the root cause - bad barrels or bad ammunition. I think its bad barrels, which is what Sako says. How they handled the matter (extremely poorly and irresponsibly, IMHO) is a different matter.


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You know its kinda strange, not that I am disagreeing with Sako/Tikka's responsibility here, but I have seen some real problems with some reloading powders being mis-labeled or having other problems and I dont see the powder company going to much out of their way to let everyone know. I see other gun manufacturers having some problems and I dont see them doing much about it either ie Remington. So why all the public outrage against Sako/Tikka?

Now dont get me wrong, I think they have screwed up big (and I am a Sako/Tikka fan) and they should get their britches burned. Not for a materials problem as it can happen, but for what certainly seems like an under the covers type attitude for rectifying it.

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This is NOT an ammo problem, this is a RIFLE problem!

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Do you have in your posession the conclusive proof and the evidence that it is the rifle and not the ammo and you have the scientific back ground of the reasons this has happened, i also suppose this has NEVER happened to Ruger, Remington, Winchester etc.


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I haven�t heard of any Remington�s, Winchesters, Ruger�s or Weatherby�s blowing up have you?? if so please add pictures and other proof. I think it�s a little odd that the Tikka and Sako owners are the only ones that bought this so-called bad ammo. I haven�t seen any proof of the Browning�s blowing up can someone please post that. It really doesn�t matter if this was a Sako or Tikka or any other manufactures gun this is a bad thing to have happen I think this would really have a psychological affect on ones ability to shoot a gun with out a flinch. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

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The blown Brownings were posted in photos here a while back. They are retrievable with a search, I would bet.

Remingtons are a lot harder to blow up... ;-)
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See the Leupie survived!! Who said they weren't tough!!


Sorry George, the objective lens was trashed. If you can find the origional post you will see the scope bell is crushed. IIRC Leupold replaced the scope for free.

The Sako was a .300 Win Mag. Also had a fluted barrel.

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Sorry George, the objective lens was trashed. If you can find the origional post you will see the scope bell is crushed. IIRC Leupold replaced the scope for free.


Actually, they bought it back and are re-marketing the scope:

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if anyone can find the pics of the browning blow up, I would love to see them. I have been searching on the site and came up with nothing........thanks blake


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I wonder if Sako/Tikka and Browning got the barrel steel from the same source?


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Ya mean there MIGHT be a method to their madness. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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Has anybody kept track of the calibers and barrel contours involved in the Sako/Tikka blowups? I notice some of their contours have a very small diameter shank which isn't helping the margin of safety.

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Yeah, Beretta/Sako/Tikka sure did drop the ball on this one. It's too bad they didn't handle the recall and take care of their customers like Remington has on their "fire on release" safety. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />


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