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They have a headquarters here and the trucks are made here.The profits go to the stockholders, of which I am sure many are Americans. Irregardless, I bought Big Three junk for years and I am done. Screw me once, shame on you, screw me twice, shame on me.


Your reply explains your toyota purchase, among other things. As far as me buying foreign trash vehicles, NEVER going to happen.

I grew up in the Flint area and most of my family was employed in the auto industry in one form or another. I too thought like you, but them I realized how many of the vehicles I bought had issues. The last straw was a 2001 Dodge Ram 2500 I bought new. That POS ate expensive parts like injection pumps, front ends and auto tranny's like it was going out of style and it rusted out in short order. Of course it was built in Mexico with a Cummins diesel engine block cast in Brazil....


toyota=Japan. Buying one adds to the trade deficit. You don't complain about that, but harp that a Dodge was built in Mexico? I detect quite a bit of hypocrisy on your part. toyota's don't have problems and don't rust? That's a pile of bovine excrement.
Again, your reply explains your toyota purchase, among other things.


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I think this guy must be Walt's long lost twin.

All of my Toyotas lasted longer than any of the Detroit junk I had the misfortune of owning.Regardless of where they are built there is a market for things that WORK!

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If someone pulls up in a jap vehicle and asks permission to hunt or for a job to work on my property I would turn him down.

I suggest the Chevy!


Well, after the fella you let hunt on your property with his Chevy fails to get it started and leaves it stranded blocking your gate... you may reconsider your convictions. laugh


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I think this guy must be Walt's long lost twin.

All of my Toyotas lasted longer than any of the Detroit junk I had the misfortune of owning.Regardless of where they are built there is a market for things that WORK!


You sound like you are very well acquainted with the blowbama supporter from Ohio. A fellow ranger perhaps?

I use my truck. Hence, no sissy junk from Japan.


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Originally Posted by MIVHNTR

You sound like you are very well acquainted with the blowbama supporter from Ohio. A fellow ranger perhaps?

I use my truck. Hence, no sissy junk from Japan.



You've obviously had good luck with your american made truck............but I suspect that not all previous owners of american made trucks share your good fortune!!!

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Originally Posted by MIVHNTR
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I think this guy must be Walt's long lost twin.

All of my Toyotas lasted longer than any of the Detroit junk I had the misfortune of owning.Regardless of where they are built there is a market for things that WORK!


You sound like you are very well acquainted with the blowbama supporter from Ohio. A fellow ranger perhaps?

I use my truck. Hence, no sissy junk from Japan.


Nope.Just a guy who likes what works best for him.

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You sound like you are very well acquainted with the blowbama supporter from Ohio. A fellow ranger perhaps?

I use my truck. Hence, no sissy junk from Japan.



You've obviously had good luck with your american made truck............but I suspect that not all previous owners of american made trucks share your good fortune!!!


My American made truck has done much more than get groceries or go to a mall, which is all the Japanese trucks are good for.

Not everyone that has a rice burner truck has a worry free and trouble free experience as you profess to have had. More than a few previous owners of Japanese made trucks have told me that were/are not satisfied and with their foreign made purchases. The thing is, they admitted it and sold them.


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Originally Posted by MIVHNTR
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They have a headquarters here and the trucks are made here.The profits go to the stockholders, of which I am sure many are Americans. Irregardless, I bought Big Three junk for years and I am done. Screw me once, shame on you, screw me twice, shame on me.


Your reply explains your toyota purchase, among other things. As far as me buying foreign trash vehicles, NEVER going to happen.

I grew up in the Flint area and most of my family was employed in the auto industry in one form or another. I too thought like you, but them I realized how many of the vehicles I bought had issues. The last straw was a 2001 Dodge Ram 2500 I bought new. That POS ate expensive parts like injection pumps, front ends and auto tranny's like it was going out of style and it rusted out in short order. Of course it was built in Mexico with a Cummins diesel engine block cast in Brazil....


toyota=Japan. Buying one adds to the trade deficit. You don't complain about that, but harp that a Dodge was built in Mexico? I detect quite a bit of hypocrisy on your part. toyota's don't have problems and don't rust? That's a pile of bovine excrement.
Again, your reply explains your toyota purchase, among other things.

Couple points that you don't seem to comprehend. Many Toyota's are made in the USA. Many Big three vehicles are made in other countries. Buying a US made Toyota does not contribute to the trade deficit...
And yes, Toyota's have very, very few problems and the rust thing was fixed years ago...

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Originally Posted by BWalker

Ciuple points that you dont seem to get. Many toyotas are made in the USA. Many Big three vehicles are miade in other countries. Buying a US made toyota does not contribute to the trade deficit...
And yes, Toyotas have very, very few problems and the rust thing was fixed years ago...




Again, your reply explains your toyota purchase, among other things.


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Originally Posted by MIVHNTR
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Originally Posted by MIVHNTR

You sound like you are very well acquainted with the blowbama supporter from Ohio. A fellow ranger perhaps?

I use my truck. Hence, no sissy junk from Japan.



You've obviously had good luck with your american made truck............but I suspect that not all previous owners of american made trucks share your good fortune!!!



I am sure that many foreign truck owners will profess the same results that you have.

Face it.............with both american and foreign trucks there will always be the occasional POS in the woodpile!!!




My American made truck has done much more than get groceries or go to a mall, which is all the Japanese trucks are good for.

Not everyone that has a rice burner truck has a worry free and trouble free experience as you profess to have had. More than a few previous owners of Japanese made trucks have told me that were/are not satisfied and with their foreign made purchases. The thing is, they admitted it and sold them.





Just because your first hand experience with friends that have had bad experiences with foreign trucks doesn't make it the be all end all.............you will find the same bad experiences on both sides of the ocean !!!

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Originally Posted by MIVHNTR
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Originally Posted by MIVHNTR

You sound like you are very well acquainted with the blowbama supporter from Ohio. A fellow ranger perhaps?

I use my truck. Hence, no sissy junk from Japan.



You've obviously had good luck with your american made truck............but I suspect that not all previous owners of american made trucks share your good fortune!!!


My American made truck has done much more than get groceries or go to a mall, which is all the Japanese trucks are good for.

Not everyone that has a rice burner truck has a worry free and trouble free experience as you profess to have had. More than a few previous owners of Japanese made trucks have told me that were/are not satisfied and with their foreign made purchases. The thing is, they admitted it and sold them.


Likewise, many people(myself included) have had bad luck with GM, Ford, and Chryler products and sold them. Had they not produced such junk in the 80's and 90's maybe the Japanese would have not gained so much ground. Why would I continue to spend my hard earned money on products that have given me significant problems in the past?


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TOKYO, JAPAN

Toyota recalls 7.4 million vehicles world wide, for defective power window switches.

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Toyota has been trying to fix its reputation after a series of massive recalls of 14 million vehicles over several years.

Before that, Toyota had boasted a reputation for pristine quality, centered around its super-lean production methods that empowered the worker to hone in on quality control.

Toyota executives have acknowledged the escalating recalls were partly caused by the company's overly ambitious growth goals.


WTH, nobody's perfect? ;O)

One BIL used to be a Toyota fanatic, emphasis on "used to be". The frame rust-out on his beloved extended cab Taco 4x4 threw him off a bit. Then he took advantage of their generous trade-in offer and swapped it on a new 4 cyl. regular cab 2WD Taco and he's had second thoughts. Especially when shortly thereafter, they went in the "new frame" direction, instead. So that pizzed him off somethin' fierce, right there. Could've kept his old truck, had he waited a bit?

Then his wife's new Camry took a chit in freeway traffic (auto tranny). She's now on tranny #3, so she's not a happy girl, either.

Chit happens with any manufactured product and I sorta liked the Tacoma at one point, but don't own any Jap trucks. The Tundra is well-loved by a few friends that have them, but to me, they're too damn fugly to sit in my driveway?


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Wanna make a bet there are more registered Toyotas on the road from the 80's then there are Ford trucks?

To compare the quality of a Toyota truck with a Ford is ROTFLMAO. Get Real . That is why they have the resale value , why they seldom offer rebates and they disappear from Dealers lots.

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Dunno, never owned any Furd pickups? I can tell you that there are far more 70s and 80s Chevy pickups still on the roads around here, than either Furds, Toyotas or Dodges.

Might even be more Chevys, than the other three put together? I would say most of the 80s vintage Tacos long ago rusted to the ground?

Tacomas began to be good trucks around 1990, from what I can tell? A buddy is still driving his '90 4 cyl. 5 spd. 4x4 Tacoma, bought new.


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Tacomas came out in '95.


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Dunno, never owned any Furd pickups? I can tell you that there are far more 70s and 80s Chevy pickups still on the roads around here, than either Furds, Toyotas or Dodges.

Might even be more Chevys, than the other three put together? I would say most of the 80s vintage Tacos long ago rusted to the ground?

Tacomas began to be good trucks around 1990, from what I can tell? A buddy is still driving his '90 4 cyl. 5 spd. 4x4 Tacoma, bought new.


Quite a few 80's Toyota trucks still on the road around my parts.



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I think we're trying to compare regional differences. Around here there's an equal mix of Ford and Chevy among vehicles over 15yrs old, and Dodge holds its own with trucks newer than 15yrs. Toyotas of every age are very popular too.


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The older toyotas rusted in road salt states, but mechanicaly where bullet proof.
BTW if we are using recalls to denegrate toyota. How about the Ford/firestone tire recall or the GM side sadal gastank recall. or how about that things they didnt recall..like GM trucks cracking frames by the steering box or GM trucks burning oil due to bad valve guides..

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We've owned probably 100 1/2t PU's over the past 14 years for work, inc Ford, Chevy, and Toyota Tundra. You get good ones and not so good ones in every make. The best so far was a 2001 F150 my dad drove 330,000+ miles with numerous brake jobs and a timing chain being the only things done besides routine maintenance. The Tundra's get dented and dinged easier than any of them with their paper thin sheet metal. They run good though, but you'd be well off to own a refinery for the gas they suck. We won't even buy them anymore because our Z71's and F150 4x4's have held up so well.


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A Tundra could easily be my next truck, but the fuel economy is poor from every account I've heard and read. I can't understand how Toyota lets this happen-----------the fuel economy, not the reporting.


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