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Never felt the need for a .41 Mag. As such, I have had to make do with .22LRs, .22MRFs, a .22 Jet, .357s, .429s, both Special and Magnum, and .452s/.454s, both LC and ACP, in my Smith DAs.
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I don't carry the Model 19. I have other guns that carry better. I just want to use it to hunt and use it as a backup firearm when hunting. From what I'm reading on here, it sounds like I need to go ahead and sell or trade it. I'll take all of the M-19's that you want to get rid of.
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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I've never had the impression they were bombs waiting to go off, they just are a gun prone to wear if beat on with regular diets of recoil, pressure and inertia, just like most Smiths.
A "catastrophic" failure is usually linked to a person ignoring what their gun is showing them.
I'd like to know what carries better, unless its a Colt Trooper, 357 or Python in 357? J-frames are on the wee side of pointing well.
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I'd like to know what carries better, unless its a Colt Trooper, 357 or Python in 357? J-frames are on the wee side of pointing well.
I don't carry the Model 19 because it's so bulky and heavy compared to my carry guns. My carry guns are HK P2000sk 40, Kahr PM9, and Ruger LCP. The Model 19 is not as comfortable to carry for me as my other guns. I just want to use the pistol for hunting and from what I've read, the Ruger sounds like a better hunting pistol.
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I just want to use the pistol for hunting and from what I've read, the Ruger sounds like a better hunting pistol.
I wouldn't say that. I like Ruger single action revolvers, but I won 2 M-19's in 357 but no Rugers. The M-19 is a perfect size 357 IMHO and an excellent hunting revolver that will give decades of great service
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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I'd like to know what carries better, unless its a Colt Trooper, 357 or Python in 357? J-frames are on the wee side of pointing well.
I don't carry the Model 19 because it's so bulky and heavy compared to my carry guns. My carry guns are HK P2000sk 40, Kahr PM9, and Ruger LCP. The Model 19 is not as comfortable to carry for me as my other guns. I just want to use the pistol for hunting and from what I've read, the Ruger sounds like a better hunting pistol. My .357 hunting revolver is a blued 6 in. GP100. I added a Hogue rubber grip, Millett blaze orange front sight, and did a light trigger job. I wanted the gun to be reliable with any make of ammo available, so it didn't get the really light springs. It will fire ammo with CCI magnum small rifle primers if necessary (I tried it). It's over 10 years old now, and is still as tight as new. I even used it for a season of bowling pins, with 200 gr cast bullets. My "gamer" gun is a slicked up 4 in. 686 S&W. It's fast, but even it requires occasional tweaking.
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My best advice. Never fire a S&W revolver and expect to be happy with a Ruger revolver.
The S&W trigger is that much better IMO.
Nothing wrong with the Ruger, extremely well built and rugged, just not as refined as S&W.
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A 5" S&W 19 would be an odd duck, probably highly in demand by collectors. 2.5" 19s and 66s are bulky for a snubby, but not as bulky as the 3.5" 27s, and man do they have a muzzle blast/flash that will try to give you a flinch.
Jeff they seemed to be the norm., I believe they were made for FHP I saw M27's that were 5" and Colt New Service's in 357 Mag. that were 5" and mine wasn't the only 19 with a 5" barrel
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I'm a Smith Guy when it comes to DA revolvers.... My first was a 1970 Model 19 blue 4". Put 10K rounds of nothing but 1200 fps 357156 cast gas checked bullets through it before it was returned to Smith for a tune and to be nickeled. It then ran another 10K of the same load before being sold in 1980...and still looking in 95% condition. The gun had a total of 6 .38 Special rounds through it and a few boxes of JHPs.
That said for a mid-size .357 Magnum I would go with and have purchased a stainless 4" GP100. Although the single action will never be what the average Smith is, the DA is just as good as any out of the box smith. Both can be tuned to perfection by a competent smith. And since I shoot DA revolvers DA 95% of the time the SA pull doesn't really concern me.
As to the grips, both the stock grips and the Hogue replacements fit my hands fine. For sights the quickly replaceable Rugers are way better than the pinned in Smiths, except those from the Custom Shop. I have one of the FO fronts on the Ruger with a WO rear and it is a lot easier to see than a black or colored ramp front on a Smith.
When I shoot a .357 it is usually with .357s not .38s so a GP100 just works better for me than the 19....
Bob
ps...I also recently purchased a 3" Model 66...boy what a nicely balanced gun.... It is giving the GP a run for its money....
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I'm a Smith Guy when it comes to DA revolvers.... My first was a 1970 Model 19 blue 4". Put 10K rounds of nothing but 1200 fps 357156 cast gas checked bullets through it before it was returned to Smith for a tune and to be nickeled. It then ran another 10K of the same load before being sold in 1980...and still looking in 95% condition. The gun had a total of 6 .38 Special rounds through it and a few boxes of JHPs.
That said for a mid-size .357 Magnum I would go with and have purchased a stainless 4" GP100. Although the single action will never be what the average Smith is, the DA is just as good as any out of the box smith. Both can be tuned to perfection by a competent smith. And since I shoot DA revolvers DA 95% of the time the SA pull doesn't really concern me.
As to the grips, both the stock grips and the Hogue replacements fit my hands fine. For sights the quickly replaceable Rugers are way better than the pinned in Smiths, except those from the Custom Shop. I have one of the FO fronts on the Ruger with a WO rear and it is a lot easier to see than a black or colored ramp front on a Smith.
When I shoot a .357 it is usually with .357s not .38s so a GP100 just works better for me than the 19....
Bob
ps...I also recently purchased a 3" Model 66...boy what a nicely balanced gun.... It is giving the GP a run for its money.... I guess my first centerfire double action was a 19 too. It was a 4" nickeled. Rough looking gun but I enjoyed it until I traded it on a Colt Trooper Mk. III with a 6" barrel and also nickel plated. The latter was in much better shape and sported Herret's "Trooper" stocks. Wish I still had that one. The Smith's finish was too badly used for me to wish it back.
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I've had/have both and will say that in a 4" model for MY needs/uses I prefer the M19. Mine is a M19-4 and with the Uncle Mikes grips fits my hand like a well worn pair of jeans fits....well what they fit. I can litterally draw from a holster, pick up off a table/flat surface/etc. and raise eyes close and when I open my eyes, the sights are aligned. Yes it is not as robust as a GP100 but the slick trigger, fit, weight, and balance just appeals to me more. Oh, mine is super accurate.
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I'm an s&w man when it comes to DAs (rugers are fine for SA shooting), so I'd opt for the M19 IF, I didn't plan on a lot of magnum shooting. I do like the ergonomics of the gp100, but not the DA trigger pull.
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Carry the Smith and shoot the GP100. Sorry, but if I have to worry about overusing it, it's not going to ride in my waistband. YMMV
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