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Rem 55 sp's work well, as do Fed Classic (blue box I think these days) do the job fine as well. Nothing fancy about them, but they tend to be accurate, effective and cost effective as well.
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I'd take a serious look at the new Winchester 64gr PowerMax Bonded .223 ammo. It's designed specifically for deer & antelope. And its accurate in my AR-15. Sub MOA @ 100. Also works great on 200lb feral hogs!
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I ask because my CZ 527 has a 1-12 twist. I dont see on Barnes web site where it says the 55 gr tsx needs a specific twist.Perhaps I've missed it. "*Many different rifling twists are available in this chambering. It�s important to know your rifle�s twist rate before selecting a bullet. *To stabilize in flight, 45-grain Banded Spitzers and 53-grain TSX bullets require a 1:12� or faster twist; 62-grain TSX and 55-grain MPG bullets need a 1:9� or faster twist." http://www.barnesbullets.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/223RemingtonWeb.pdf
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No it doesn't, check again. I shoot 55's out of 1:12 and it shoots 1/2" groups.
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Well, they are VERY good about specifying, so if they didn't specify. I ask because my CZ 527 has a 1-12 twist. I dont see on Barnes web site where it says the 55 gr tsx needs a specific twist.Perhaps I've missed it. "*Many different rifling twists are available in this chambering. It�s important to know your rifle�s twist rate before selecting a bullet. *To stabilize in flight, 45-grain Banded Spitzers and 53-grain TSX bullets require a 1:12� or faster twist; 62-grain TSX and 55-grain MPG bullets need a 1:9� or faster twist." http://www.barnesbullets.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/223RemingtonWeb.pdf
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No it doesn't, check again. I shoot 55's out of 1:12 and it shoots 1/2" groups. Read the entire thread idiot. 1-9" recommendation for this 55. http://www.barnesbullets.com/products/components/rifle/tipped-tsx-bullet/
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I wouldn't argue much with Steely when it comes to .223 or .223AI. Or Stick either, for that matter.
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We have killed lots of pigs with the .223 Rem. PSP's.! Much harder to kill than an equal sized deer IMO.
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I wouldn't argue much with Steely when it comes to .223 or .223AI. Or Stick either, for that matter. No doubt the smartest guys around. To the original OP, 53/55 TSX is a good all around choice for deer.
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I looked in my Barnes loading manual #4(latest)(When I remembered I had it)And no where does Barnes provide info for a 55 grain tsx,or ttsx bullet.
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I looked in my Barnes loading manual #4(latest)(When I remembered I had it)And no where does Barnes provide info for a 55 grain tsx,or ttsx bullet. Pick another makers 55 and work to that velocity. Don't be surprised if it takes a bit more powder.
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I looked in my Barnes loading manual #4(latest)(When I remembered I had it)And no where does Barnes provide info for a 55 grain tsx,or ttsx bullet. Pick another makers 55 and work to that velocity. Don't be surprised if it takes a bit more powder. I bought 2 boxes of 53 gr yesterday.my point was,I wonder if they are even making the 55 anymore.
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Can't know, as I sling 62's.
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55 grain factory loaded Barnes Vortex shot under 1 moa in my 1 in 12 twist mini-mauser last fall.
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Barnes makes a 55 gr TSX (1-12" twist or faster) and a 55 gr TTSX (1-9" twist or faster) both are available as componet bullets.
The factory Barnes load uses the 55 gr TSX so that it can be used in 1-12" twist 223's.
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No need for anything fancy to kill deer. The plain old Win. Super-X 55 gr. sp works fine.
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Barnes makes a 55 gr TSX (1-12" twist or faster) and a 55 gr TTSX (1-9" twist or faster) both are available as componet bullets.
The factory Barnes load uses the 55 gr TSX so that it can be used in 1-12" twist 223's. if that is so,(and I dont know why it wouldnt be),why isnt it listed in the latest manual from Barnes?
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Would the faster twist be a better match for the heavier bullets or are there other variables?
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