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The only thing worse than a liberal is a liberal that thinks they're a conservative.
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Probably depends on the twist.
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I've got two 223AI's and only one 243AI so the answer clearly has to be yes.
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Maybe the 223 has a chance here on the interwebs, but for most regular ol Joes, the 243, '06, and 270 are still it. And in my experience, the 243 shooters STILL catch hell from everyone else for not bringing enough gun. Where I hunt, you would probably not be allowed to hunt if you showed up with a 223,and I hunt in Texas where the 22-250 is considered equal with the 30-06,go figure.
I personally would rather shoot a deer with a 357 rifle than a 223
...on earth as it is in Texas.
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That's because there are a WHOLE bunch of idiots just like Don.
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I've had more deer drop at the shot with s 223AI than anything else I have used to date, and I've used a bunch.
Drilling shoulders and 200 pound deer don't scare me in the least, if they do others then so be it. There is nothing inhumane or 'iffy' about taking one into the deer woods, that's for damn sure.
No doubt the 243 is good and trumps the 223 at longer distances, but not by a crazy about. 75Amax needs and extra 3MOA dialed in to hit at 1K then a 243 shooting 105gr Amax. House that same 75 in a 22/250 and the 243 comes up short. Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner. The 223 won't replace the 243, but the 22-250 will. Maybe the 223 will replace the 6x45. Pete
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I bet a good many of those goofball survivalist types that are buying up all the Ar15s don't even know what a .243win. is.
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In New England most of the states have a 6mm minimum for use on deer, so I don't see the .223 taking over around here at least. I beg to differ.... Jack, Went back and checked all states in NE and you are correct. Have not looked in a while.
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In New England most of the states have a 6mm minimum for use on deer, so I don't see the .223 taking over around here at least. I beg to differ.... Jack, Went back and checked all states in NE and you are correct. Have not looked in a while. Chipper....you and I both know that rules and regs change all the time depending on who holds the hammer in tha segment of government!!!! Give it a bit....will change sure enough again!
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An older friend of mine approaching 70 years of age made the statement that with some of the new bullets today he believes his 243 will kill as effectively the 270 he's hunted with for more than 30 years. Maybe this thread should be will the 243 replace the 270 in the lower 48?
As far as the 223 being used to kill deer more than the 243......I really don't believe the idea of that is too far fetched by any means. Look on any survival websight and the 223 is the deer rifle of choice....Not to mention I think it is probably one of the number one selling rifles in the united states today and I'm pretty sure most who are buying a 223 are not preparing for varmint season.
Shod This^. With knowledgeable shooters the .223 replaced the .243 a decade ago. Of course, the .243 replaced the .270, and so forth...
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I've always been a .243 Fan. Been dropping deer since the late 80's using the cartridge. It's inherently accurate & simply kills.
I'm sure if I started out with a .223 I'd feel the same, I just stuck with what has worked for me. Nope the .223 will not replace the .243, they both are fine cartridges for whitetail IMO.
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Yall can use the .223 all you want, but I do own 2 ARs and have very limited experience shooting deer with them and it wasn't good. It is however the cat's meow for yotes and groundhogs. I'll stick with my different 7mms for deer.
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I bet a good many of those goofball survivalist types that are buying up all the Ar15s don't even know what a .243win. is. I'm not sure what a .243win. is but I have heard of the 243 win. ! I'm assuming this is what you were trying to say? Shod
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The 223 is gaining popularity in the woods due to the gaining popularity of the AR platform, not due to it somehow being a better deer killer than a 243.
Having shot deer with both, the 243 is the better all-around chambering by quite a bit.
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I bet a good many of those goofball survivalist types that are buying up all the Ar15s don't even know what a .243win. is. I'm not sure what a .243win. is but I have heard of the 243 win. ! I'm assuming this is what you were trying to say? Shod That is a truly amazing contribution.
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And that's after editing! 
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Looks like I've been missing all the fun! Didnt have time to read this whole thread, but whatever Steelhead said....+1
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The 223 is gaining popularity in the woods due to the gaining popularity of the AR platform, not due to it somehow being a better deer killer than a 243.
Having shot deer with both, the 243 is the better all-around chambering by quite a bit. Cheap ammo is the 223's claim to fame do to it's military use, much like 9mm pistol ammo. On game, the 223 couldn't shine the shoe's of the 243.
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Kinda like fishing for marlin with a bream buster.. better tools are available.
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