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I have a 130 AN Load with Varget that had an ES of 3.

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Dang!!


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Originally Posted by Cocadori
I have a 130 AN Load with Varget that had an ES of 3.


Seriously, you are worried about ES out to 500 yards? Grab either one and go kill schit. Don't make this more complicated than it needs to be.

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3 shots, 5 shots, 10??


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Originally Posted by Cocadori
Has anyone had success with getting closer and kissing the lands?


Nope....I have tried them close but accuracy wasn't there, but they shoot ragged holes .040-.050 off, there are a few here on the fire that say you have to kiss the lands to get them to shoot, I'm not buying it!

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Originally Posted by Cocadori
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What are you shooting? I'd shoot 2900 fps load again and if it produces the same as the first I might be good. Then I'd go back and shoot 1shot from a cold bore. If it lands within the same group...I would most certainly be calling it a day!

What are the ES numbers you are questioning for load 1?


I was thinking same.

ES on the top group is 23

ES on the bottom group is 18



....in that case, you're good to go. Neither of those is enough of an extreme spread to even be worth consideration even at 500yds. I expected you to say 140fps or something significant. grin


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23 and 18 are neither extreme, nor are they statistically really spreads. I don't really care how small those numbers are. I want the load to shoot well enough wherever "out yonder" happens to be. If you want them to be there for you at 500, you need to shoot at 500, and do whatever fiddling you need to with your equipment at that distance, too, in order to know what is needed, assuming they stay together that far.


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I hear ya GT ;-)

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This is the first time I've ever loaded and did a load work up with solids. I thought maybe there were some tips or tricks to get these things to fly more like the pills I'm used to spittin'.

THE ES of 3 was a 5 shot string. But I was only reaching 2750 fps. but I like the ES and I may tweak the seating depth on the NAB's a bit. It was an honest .5 group but with an ES of 3 I bet I can tighten the group a bit.

The TTSX strings were 3.

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Jesus H, how hard is it to just pick a bullet and just go kill stuff?!


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(that was fun...... grin....)


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Not hard at all. But I'm a little quirky when it comes to accuracy. In my mind there's no reason to accept MOA in a hunting rifle when you know it's capable of BR type things when it comes to 3 shot strings.

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You gotta pick a rifle, before you can pick a bullet, duh!.. grin

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Originally Posted by shortactionsmoker
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What are you shooting? I'd shoot 2900 fps load again and if it produces the same as the first I might be good. Then I'd go back and shoot 1shot from a cold bore. If it lands within the same group...I would most certainly be calling it a day!

What are the ES numbers you are questioning for load 1?


I was thinking same.

ES on the top group is 23

ES on the bottom group is 18



Am I missing something? I can live with those numbers all day!,


We all can! but you can't fault a guy striving for perfection!!

Then again, it is something I would expect more from Mathman.. smile laugh

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Looks like minute of squirrel to me. smile


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FWIW kissing and backing off works quite well for the 53grainer in my Swift and 85 in my 6mm but the 140 in the 280 and 150 in the 300WM like a bit a breathing room.


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Cocadori..... I was just kidding. I hear that all the time. No offense.


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Yep, non taken...

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I would question the chrony before the bullet.. Whatcha shooting over and was it acting funky on any "known" loads?

FWIW, just for chits and giggles, I'm shooting the 120 TTSX out of my 7mm SAUM this year. smirk


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I'd 86 the TTSX PDQ if CCB and ES/SD are AWOL.......


FWIW YMMV IMHO. whistle

Screw ES, it won't matter inside the yardage you'll be banging away at. laugh



YEP!

Those groups AND ES's are just fine, and will be just fine when you put paper out at 500 yards. And those bullets are the ultimate hunting bullet extant.


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Originally Posted by Cocadori
Not hard at all. But I'm a little quirky when it comes to accuracy. In my mind there's no reason to accept MOA in a hunting rifle when you know it's capable of BR type things when it comes to 3 shot strings.


I would (and have) taken a rifle afield with TSX's or TTSX's that shot into "only" 1-1.5 inch groups over other bullets that shot into 1/2 half that group size. I will take the excellent terminal performance over a miniscule group size all day long so long as the group is under 1.5 inches. BTW one and a half is all my pre 64 Model 70 in 300 H&H will do woth 168gr TTSX's and I am DEFINATELY going to get some blood on that one this year.

Quit worryin and go hunting. Your rifle and load are well up to the task.


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