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Nice to see you back posting Rick....
...and yes, if I had not run out of jugs that last day the 210 Gold Dots would have been tested. Have been a little busy as you know but hope to start the shooting again in the next few weeks...
Ron...have not had the chance to use that great mould we bought off the CBForums..soon I hope.
Mark...I am looking for someone locally with a 10mm but nothing yet...
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Mark...I am looking for someone locally with a 10mm but nothing yet... Bob[/quote] If you dont have one by deer season out there, and you have a good place to hunt I will fly out there with mine, along with my Winchester Model 71 348WCF and all of my Elmer Fudd red and black wool plaid stuff, including LL Bean Maine hunting shoes
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Test #11 Ruger GP100 .357 Magnum 4" Speer .38 Special +P 135 grain Gold Dot HP 897 fps Only split the milk carton, put a hole into the #1 Jug and split the handle coming out. Punched hole in and out of Jug #2 an was found expanded in #3. wheres the bullet?
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...pulled up for me...perfect mushroom....
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Got time to shoot a few more tests yesterday...forgot the camera however so I have to take some pics of the recovered bullets and will post them shortly....
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Wanted to post some pics but Photobucket has a major problem right now that hopefully will be cured shortly....
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Test #18 KelTec 3AT 1.5" .380 Buffalo Bore 100 hardcast 964 fps Split the carton and punched a hole through 4 jugs stopping at the vest insert. Bullet could be reloaded and shot again. Thanks to Mark for providing the round... Bob
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COO-EL!!!! that is what I was hoping to see from these! Mucho penetration. That is the one weak link with a 380 for self defense IMO, adequate penetration. I will be anxious to see how the Buff Bore 90gr XTP HP's that I sent you do. I load these (100gr HC Buff Bore and 90gr Buff Bore XTP's) alternately in my P3AT so as to be able to make both deep holes AND wide ones in a target. Thanks TONS I now have even more faith in my P3AT and the loads I have chosen.
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I am guessing the 10mm ammo I sent you will also be quite impressive once you find a 10mm handgun to use them in, as well.
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Test #19 KelTec 3AT 1.5" .380 Buffalo Bore 90 grain JHP 1058 fps Split carton and found fully expanded between Jug #1 and Jug #2. Jacketed separated from core once inside #1 but both made it out of Jug #1. Thanks again to Mark for the donated round.
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Hmmmm.... Not so awsome. I wish Buffalo Bore loaded Gold Dots for thier 380 HP round. I might have to load some myself or just load 7 rounds of the hardcast flat nose rounds in my 380. Kind of telling here.
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I wonder if there is a 100gr .355 Gold Dot? If so, I might try loading some up.
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..why not load every other round with CorBon PowR'Ball if you want a little more penetration with expansion.
But the bottom line is that the .32s and .380s are LiteWeights and in a tiny gun like the 3AT you are not going to get a lot of velocity...
Many years ago when I was with DPD and we had some credible threats from some Cuban drug dealers who took exception to our trying to shut down their business I carried a MAC11/.380 submachinegun with a 16 round magazine. There were 4 stacks of rounds in the 16 round magazine that went: HP, HP, Glaser, AP. It would dump the 16 rounds in about a second so I figured that no matter what was hit the appropriate round would find its mark...
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That mac11 would be a serious CCW arm for sure!
I am coaching my wife, who carries the P3AT when she carries, on speed shooting with that gun. 7 rounds as fast as she can pull the trigger so as to get the same effect, i.e. lots of holes of different flavors. HP's and FNHC's above alternating.
I am not comfortable with the uber lightweight bullets such as Powrball when heavy clothing or an extra large bad guy may be encountered. Feel much better with bullets at the heaviest end of the scale, especially with a minimalist caliber like the 380. I might even switch over to all Buffalo bore 100gr FNHC's for her now that I see how incredibly well they perform.
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Test #20 S&W Model 57 4" Speer Gold Dot (Deep Curl) 210 grain HP 1235 fps Blew up carton and Jug #1. Split Jug #2 and punched holes in #3 and #4. The bullet put a small split in the rear of Jug #4 but failed to get out of the jug as it was stopped by the vest insert.
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That is a NASTY load! Any luck locating a 10mm? Still have the buff Bore 90gr HP 380 ammo t test?
Luvin this thread, fun stuff.
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Hmmmm.... Not so awsome. I wish Buffalo Bore loaded Gold Dots for thier 380 HP round. I might have to load some myself or just load 7 rounds of the hardcast flat nose rounds in my 380. Kind of telling here. There is no expanding bullet that is fired from a 380 that will give what I would consider adequate penetration. The one tested did as well as could be expected. The 100 grain hard cast tested did extremely well for a 380 and is by far the best choice
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Kinda what I am thinking if the 380 is the best that Sherri will carry or that I can pack in certain situations like the beach etc.
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Test #20 Colt Diamondback 4" Fiocchi .22 Magnum 40 grain JHP 1249 fps Split carton and then punched a hole through 4 jugs and came to rest on the vest. No expansion.
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