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Does anyone know if the frame issues have been fixed instead of "addressed." The website says they've been strengthened, but I'd like to hear from anyone that has any experience with them. I'm not going to take the dealers word for it.  Especially since they have some pretty good deals on the outlander's right now.
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If they have to come up with a brace...it's not fixed.
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If they have to come up with a brace...it's not fixed. They had "Spar" breakage issues in 03-04, (among a ton of other problems) that they wouldn't fix for owners,& they still have "Spar" breakage issues  Unless you want that ton of HP, I see not a single reason to purchase one.
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stick with honda or yamaha...get a grizz 700 if you want power
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There is NO comparison in power or ride between the Grizz and the Can Am....
I owned both, they are completely different machines. Guess which I've still got.......
The ride and power delivery on the Can Am is beyond compare. There is simply nothing else out there that comes close to it.
Why pack all that messy meat out of the bush when we can just go to the grocery store where meat is made? Hell,if they sold antlers I would save so much money I could afford to go Dolphin fishing. Maybe even a baby seal safari.
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Can-Am needs a back up pull start period.When that comes I'll be the first in line.
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I'd hate to run into the guy that could pullstart a V Twin in a dark alley....
Why pack all that messy meat out of the bush when we can just go to the grocery store where meat is made? Hell,if they sold antlers I would save so much money I could afford to go Dolphin fishing. Maybe even a baby seal safari.
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Have a 650 V Twin pulls fairly easy unless said person is lame or a feeb.Honda Suzuki Kawi all have them on efi models.Why not Cam Am?Apart from that they kick everybodies azz cleanly
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Well after checking all I care to on the new models. There is no chance I'm going to spend my money on them.
The frame is still an issue and has been since they were made. You'd think you could get some engineering to fix the problem, instead of a bolt on fix. If you need that, there is an issue. Redesign the frame! Just because something is new, doesn't mean it works.
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Have a 650 V Twin pulls fairly easy unless said person is lame or a feeb.Honda Suzuki Kawi all have them on efi models.Why not Cam Am?Apart from that they kick everybodies azz cleanly Wonder how that works with the pressurized fuel pump system?
Why pack all that messy meat out of the bush when we can just go to the grocery store where meat is made? Hell,if they sold antlers I would save so much money I could afford to go Dolphin fishing. Maybe even a baby seal safari.
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Not arguing, had a look online at them. Seriously just wondering how that works with a pressurized fuel injected system to initially start them is all.
Why pack all that messy meat out of the bush when we can just go to the grocery store where meat is made? Hell,if they sold antlers I would save so much money I could afford to go Dolphin fishing. Maybe even a baby seal safari.
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Buy a can-am if:
You want a cracked frame
If it helps your ego to say my quad is faster than yours
If you regularly drive your quad over 50mph
If you want a utility quad that's as fast as a sport quad
If you don't want a true front locking differential
If you don't mind bringing extra belts with you in the field
If you like the color yellow
If the sound of your quad is important to you
No Doubt they are impressive in terms of speed and performance. I would say the solid rear axle on my foreman is built for more "work" than the IRS on the can-am. For almost double the cost of my foreman, they cannot tow or pull nowhere near double the weight and then there that belt thingy that tends to break at the wrong time.
I would look at a rincon if I wanted an All IRS bike. Power nowhere near the can-am but thy have. A great suspension.
Any compnay that cant get the broken frame issue right for years wouldn't get my money.
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I purchased a Can-am 650 in 2009 and traded it in 3 months later for a Kawasaki 750I. Can-am Cons 1. Rotary engine puts off so much heat you can toast bread if you tied a loaf to your pants leg. 2. You must wrap heat resistance cloth on muffler under the seat & heat resistance tape on the underside of seat or it will melt(mine did). 3. If you let the battery die, the computer will not let you re-start unless you remember the code. 4. Brakes will wear out in 300 miles All this happened to me. Can-am Pro's 1. It's fast..very fast. I like my Kawasaki...no issues at all! ![[Linked Image]](http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv360/slg888/house009.jpg)
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Yup the Brutes a Top notch machine would take it over a Rincon easy.
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I would too. I've never been a fan of the Rincon. I'm not sure what Honda was doing there. It was a weird way for them to get in the big bore market. I hate to say it but after riding a Polaris 550LE EPS model for a good bit a few weeks ago, I'm going to give them a serious look again. Might have to eat some crow on that one. 
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Buy a can-am if:
You want a cracked frame
If it helps your ego to say my quad is faster than yours
If you regularly drive your quad over 50mph
If you want a utility quad that's as fast as a sport quad
If you don't want a true front locking differential
If you don't mind bringing extra belts with you in the field
If you like the color yellow
If the sound of your quad is important to you
No Doubt they are impressive in terms of speed and performance. I would say the solid rear axle on my foreman is built for more "work" than the IRS on the can-am. For almost double the cost of my foreman, they cannot tow or pull nowhere near double the weight and then there that belt thingy that tends to break at the wrong time.
I would look at a rincon if I wanted an All IRS bike. Power nowhere near the can-am but thy have. A great suspension.
Any compnay that cant get the broken frame issue right for years wouldn't get my money.
Laughin'...... OR, you buy one because you want the most comfortable machine with the best ergonomics and power delivery to the ground available. You honda guys get so threatened when anyone points out that there has been new technology available for atv's for decades.... Know another reason people buy Can Am's over Honda's? They want to be able to stop on demand......(grin)
Why pack all that messy meat out of the bush when we can just go to the grocery store where meat is made? Hell,if they sold antlers I would save so much money I could afford to go Dolphin fishing. Maybe even a baby seal safari.
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I've enjoyed my CanAm. It's an older model, lots of power, has been dependable. Pulls like a mule.
...I've not checked my frame but will this weekend. Considering the frame problems I read about yesterday, I don't think I'd buy one again.
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Laughin'......
OR, you buy one because you want the most comfortable machine with the best ergonomics and power delivery to the ground available.
You honda guys get so threatened when anyone points out that there has been new technology available for atv's for decades....
Know another reason people buy Can Am's over Honda's? They want to be able to stop on demand......(grin)
no doubt can-am's have the "most" power/speed....and a nice ride with all kinds of bells and whistles....for the money, the frames shouldnt break and they should have a front locking diff and there is always the potential for the belt to fail..
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