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Berkley Nanofil.
All I have on all my UL rigs now. Outcasts ANY mono or braid I have ever tried. No backlashes, no loops, supple but with no stretch, super thin.
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I really hate to disagree with Samonela's recommendation of Maxima Ultragreen but it's way down my list for use with spinning reels. Don't get me wrong, it's excellent monofilament and it's my number one choice for leader material unless I'm using fluorocarbon.
I'm sorry I wasn't clear in my earlier posts. If you re-read you'll see that I said that I find Maxima too wirey for spinning reels in my experience, if I choose to use mono for a baitcaster however, it is my first choice. It is hands down my favorite mono for leaders. Maxima Ultra Green has proven it's quality over and over to me, I once landed a 38lb King Salmon on a 10 lb UG leader with a tiny #6 Gamakatsu hook, in a fast moving riffle while targeting steelhead. 12 & 15# Ultra Green is my favorite for salmon up to 40lbs, I'll use 8 & 10lb for most steelhead fishing, where I fish they run up to 20lbs, often water conditions dictate line weight. Monofiliment has different qualities for different applications, very light line becomes important in low clear water conditions as well. Light line slices through water at a much quicker rate than heavier gauge line which is more bouyant with it's larger diameter, this can often mean the difference between success and failure when fishing for bottom hugging salmon or steelhead as lighter lines will drop your presentation down to the strike zone where the fish is laying on the bottom of the stream instead of floating over the top where they might not be interested in your offering. I use Power Pro Braid for my main line, it's sensitivity, small line diameter, lack of stretch and superior strength are unmatched and give you definite advantages over mono in MANY circumstances, I always use a mono leader when fishing braid for a number of reasons. I'll use a clinch knot on swivels and a snell knot or egg loop on hooks, the quality of your knot is incredibly important on big fish as knot failure is a leading cause of heartache when guys hook "The Big One". I also prefer baitcasting reels in most of my fishing situations, they offer much more control and less line twist than spinning reels and their drag systems are much smoother in most cases which is also very important when fighting big strong fish. There is however times when a light spinning rig is optimal, such as when targeting smaller fish or when in tight quarters using very light baits or artificials, I usually load the spinning reel with a very limp selection of Silver Thread, it is a high quality mono and a great choice for spinner fishing, but not nearly as abrasion resistant as ultra green, seems you can't have it all. None of my opinions are to be taken as "The Only Way", but they are what have been fire tested over several decades and hundreds of big fish and it's what works for me.
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Maybe berkely vanish has changed a bit over the years, but i tried it when it first came out and it totally sucked. I broke off a LOT of fish before I wised up and went back to UG leaders. I have had great luck with some of the sufix copolymer lines on steelhead rods. Ive been using it for years for steelhead (bulk spools) but im sure other brands have caught up. clinch knot with the line doubled, works on copolymer lines and braid also. Maxima UG is awesome stuff but it is stiff.
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With your last post and the clarifications you're starting to make sense. Only way, smonly way. I really need to show you how it's done. I'm an expert.
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Tried some Nanoline on a recommendation. Worst line I ever had . Broke under a hard look. cisco
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SEagar or Pline. Fluoro
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Jeff, Best of luck. I'll be in Utah next month with my rifle and fishing pole. Maybe this might help. I have fished the Eastern Sierra for years. I have tried all types of line. I have used fluorocarbon for a time. It is more expensive and prone to knot slippage. I now use Berkeley XL exclusively. I catch just as many if not more fish with it than with fluorocarbon. And it's nowhere near as persnickety. It took me a lot of time and money to realize there's truth to the statement that fishing tackle is made to catch fisherman. Fish, assuming that they can see fishing line -I have yet to read scientific proof they can- have no clue of what line is. They have tiny brains and zero ability to think; so, assuming they can see line, they have no clue what it is & they cannot connect line to danger. From my experience, lure action and color combination are the most crucial tackle considerations. One final thought, if there will be rocks in the area you plan to fish, you might want to consider using heavier line. Lakes in the Eastern Sierra where really big fish live are notorious for boulders. Hence, were I to tie into one, I have to be able to yank its head away from heading into boulders and breaking my line. A couple years ago I ran into a very sad Eastern Sierra local who tied into a huge Alpers trout while fishing with 4lb line. He said he saw the fish take his 'crawler and dive right for boulders and broke his line. He was unable to turn its head. I hope enjoy a fantastic hunting & fishing adventure. Take care, R Bingo! Stren or Berkley, good knots, invest the rest in an assortment of Panther Martins, Little Cleos, and some 1/32 oz jigs. All will fit in yer shirt pocket, I love the Blitzen in the fall... Charlie
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Trilene Sensation in low vis green.
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Also, inline spinners tend to twist up lines badly, so get some tiny snap swivels and use them.
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I really hate to disagree with Samonela's recommendation of Maxima Ultragreen but it's way down my list for use with spinning reels. Don't get me wrong, it's excellent monofilament and it's my number one choice for leader material unless I'm using fluorocarbon.
I'm sorry I wasn't clear in my earlier posts. If you re-read you'll see that I said that I find Maxima too wirey for spinning reels in my experience, if I choose to use mono for a baitcaster however, it is my first choice. It is hands down my favorite mono for leaders. Maxima Ultra Green has proven it's quality over and over to me, I once landed a 38lb King Salmon on a 10 lb UG leader with a tiny #6 Gamakatsu hook, in a fast moving riffle while targeting steelhead. 12 & 15# Ultra Green is my favorite for salmon up to 40lbs, I'll use 8 & 10lb for most steelhead fishing, where I fish they run up to 20lbs, often water conditions dictate line weight. Monofiliment has different qualities for different applications, very light line becomes important in low clear water conditions as well. Light line slices through water at a much quicker rate than heavier gauge line which is more bouyant with it's larger diameter, this can often mean the difference between success and failure when fishing for bottom hugging salmon or steelhead as lighter lines will drop your presentation down to the strike zone where the fish is laying on the bottom of the stream instead of floating over the top where they might not be interested in your offering. I use Power Pro Braid for my main line, it's sensitivity, small line diameter, lack of stretch and superior strength are unmatched and give you definite advantages over mono in MANY circumstances, I always use a mono leader when fishing braid for a number of reasons. I'll use a clinch knot on swivels and a snell knot or egg loop on hooks, the quality of your knot is incredibly important on big fish as knot failure is a leading cause of heartache when guys hook "The Big One". I also prefer baitcasting reels in most of my fishing situations, they offer much more control and less line twist than spinning reels and their drag systems are much smoother in most cases which is also very important when fighting big strong fish. There is however times when a light spinning rig is optimal, such as when targeting smaller fish or when in tight quarters using very light baits or artificials, I usually load the spinning reel with a very limp selection of Silver Thread, it is a high quality mono and a great choice for spinner fishing, but not nearly as abrasion resistant as ultra green, seems you can't have it all. None of my opinions are to be taken as "The Only Way", but they are what have been fire tested over several decades and hundreds of big fish and it's what works for me. Cool fish!! but is that your boat floating away in the background?
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blue box of Trilene ....and never less than 6lb test..(guess that part depends on fish size)
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