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Help me understand something.......If the guy carrying the gun wasn't doing ANYTHING illegal (the cops admitted that), why are many of you saying he was wrong??

Yes, I understand he was carrying the gun as an "activist", but that is also NOT illegal......according to the LAW, he has the RIGHT to openly carry his firearm......and that RIGHT is NOT dependent on the approval of law enforcement officers that don't like it or citizens that have an irrational fear of firearms.

In this instance, the cops should have driven by to make sure he was carrying in accordance with the law and LEFT HIM ALONE!! They had NO probable cause to stop and detain him and, if the cops had followed the law, none of this would have happened!!

It was very obvious from the video that a couple of the cops were just making things up as they went........they were not happy because he wasn't willing to just lay down and do as he was told......even though the cops had NO authority to issue such orders........

I hope he sued the city, state and the individual officers and won big!!

He could've gotten a check for a few thousand if he settled out of court, but wouldn't have gotten anything in court.

Each side had valid arguments. Obvioulsy the police were baited, and that's not a respectful thing to do. The packer and enforcement, however, could have been a bit more polite with their responses and questions. Enforcement was simply not used to and likely not schooled on how to handle such situations. Still, the police showed a fair amount of restraint given the poor cooperation.

If one keeps up that practice, he may find himself cuffed and face down quite freqently. It's sad that our country has come to this, but guns instill fear in a large proportion of our population.

Around here, it used to be quite common to see sidearms in the local grocery store. Not so much anymore. There are plenty of long guns in racks and propped up on the seats out in the lot though, and those rarely draw a look.

Each side had valid arguments. Obvioulsy the police were baited, and that's not a respectful thing to do. If they were called by a concerned citizen, they should investigate. If someone was armed and pacing back and forth in front of my home, I just might call the police, and I would expect them to respond. Both packer and enforcement, however, could have been a bit more polite with their questions and responses. Enforcement was simply not used to and likely not schooled on how to handle such situations. Still, the police showed a fair amount of restraint given the poor cooperation.

If one keeps up that practice, he may find himself cuffed and face down quite often. He might not want to stroll around any Denver theaters in the near future. It's sad that our country has come to this, but guns instill fear in a large proportion of our population. There are rights, and then there is common sense.

Around here, it used to be quite common to see sidearms in the local grocery store. Not so much anymore. There are plenty of long guns in racks and propped up on the seats out in the lot though, and those rarely draw a look.

Not sure a jury would agree with you..........

This guy is an idiot. Lucky he didn't get shot. He does have to identify himself and give his age as part of their investigation.

This guy is an idiot. Lucky he didn't get shot. He does have to identify himself and give his age as part of their investigation.

A civil rights violation suit in federal court has to establish that the plaintiff received some sort of damage. Being detained for 13 minutes wouldn't result in any serious payment for damages.

How much do you think he should get paid?

Only if they can articulate reasonable suspicion of his involvement in a crime, and even that's a gigantic, court fabricated, compromise of the Fourth Amendment requirement of probable cause.

The jerk was sure enough wanting to stir up some cop trouble and the sad thing is that he succeeded. The squeaky voiced cop should have let someone else do the talking and the rest of them go on about doing what cops do.

Jerks such as this guy do this kind of stuff just because they can. Maybe someday this guy will test the wrong cop and get a good butt whupping or get to "ride the taser."

TRH, you should try this stunt.

Agreed, but we dont know what others saw which prompted the call to police. Between the first frames of the video until the police showed up, he could have crossed the street 20 times, walking in circles, ect...if any of of those callers used the words lunatic or mental, anything to indicate erratic behavior, they had the right to investigate, even if just for the fellows own safety.

If that was the case, you can bet the big mouth doughnut eater would have said so in the video......

Guy answered way, way too many questions.