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Damn, Bob, those things sell for serious $$$ to some collectors here! Especially if the box has never been opened, don't ask me why. But I am old enough to know they work real well....
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I was lucky to get 3 boxes of the 160s and 5 boxes of the same ones in 130s, all of which I picked up for 25 bucks a box. Very happy because NPTs go for anywhere from a buck-fifty to two bucks a piece here. They should keep me going for a good while.
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I am shooting these old 160g NPTs in my 270 Win. Doing 2800+ out of my 24 inch barrel, they shoot to exactly the same point of impact as the 150g SST doing 2900+ fps. This gives me a premium BIG big game load and a more general purpose load as well at a much cheaper price. That's way past kool! Dober
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Damn it. You guys have got me thinking that I need to load some 160s for my elk hunt next year. I took my old custom Mauser deer hunting for a couple of days this year and resolved to take it out more in the future. I just gifted a .270 to a rancher in Colorado, and he was asking me about factory loads for elk. I think that I will play with the 160 PTs this winter and make him and me some 160-grain loads to try in our .270s next fall.
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Well...it will do the job, especially if you're planning on a close shot. If you're going to be shooting longer distances I like a 140gr Accubond or a 150gr hornady interbond as they have higher bc (or some of the Barnes options). The combo of slower speed, and so-so bc with the 160 partitions will catch up to you if your shooting out past 300 yards or so. The partition will drop about 32" at 400 with about 1340 in energy, while a 140gr (bc of .495) will only drop about 26" with 1480 in energy for example. IMO the good ol' 270 hasn't ever been great with 160gr pills, generally speaking partitions are a good bullet. If you do some searching on the web or talk to others you'll also find that particular partition is often not all that accurate either in a .270...this may be that it's at the limits of stabilization abilities in the 1-10" twist 270. Just my 2 bits. Hope that helps. Have you ever shot the 270/160 Partition in any rifle? Have you ever shot any game with said bullet?
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I have a friend that tried to use the 160's but they just wouldn't shoot. He HAS however, used the 150's on 2 elk and a bison cow.
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Have you ever shot the 270/160 Partition in any rifle? Have you ever shot any game with said bullet?
Well, I haven't but I read about it on the internet. What do you need to know?
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Damn, Bob, those things sell for serious $$$ to some collectors here!..... Really? Geez I have quite a few. I load them up and hunt with them.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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I have used the 270 Win in various rifles since 1962. Have shot a pile of varmints and big game using everything from 90 gr Sierra HPs to 170 gr Speer RN bullets. It just plain works, on everything from groundhogs to grizzlies. The second largest moose I ever killed was taken at such a long distance I am embarrassed to tell anyone today. Let's just say I held a full body depth, from withers to brisket, over his back, and the game was over with a single 130 gr Winchester Silvertip launched by 62 gr of the old surplus H4831.
As well as my beloved 35, 9.3 and 375 rifles have done in filling freezers over the past 50 years, it is my very distinct impression that I have had more one shot kills with the 270 Win than any other cartridge, and 160 Partitions were responsible for no small number of them.
A ten inch twist barrel will handle the 160 just fine, and it shoots flat enough to kill big game out to 300 yd easily, with a dead on hold.
Ted Good post.This is of far more value than a bunch of number crunching telling us why they won't work well....thanks for posting,Ted.nice to hear the real world stuff.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Have you ever shot the 270/160 Partition in any rifle? Have you ever shot any game with said bullet?
Good counterpoint DD, I picked up a box for $10 at the Pierre GS last winter they were in the next generation box but still the old machine screw made 160 NPT.I have a couple of 270 wins but my thought was to use them in my 270 Wthby Mag. Only 50 in a box so a guy needs to hit a good load RFN. My Mk5 is a Japanese built sporter with a 24" barrel 1 in 10 twist ,superbly accurate with the 150 Horn SP with Weatherby brass ,Fed 215's and IMR 7828. I kept everything the same but dropped the charge to 69.5 grs of 7828 to start. My rifle did not like the load nor with further testing the bullet accuracy wise. I'll save the rest for use in one of the 270 Winchesters I have. I have absolutely no doubts of there ability to perform on game as stated by Yukoner and Mark Dobrenski, they have BTDT. Happy T-Day . Magnum Man
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Haven't shot any game with the 160. Stocked up on some from SPS and was trying a load with Magnum. They shot around 0.8" from my CLR. Will try them next year on elk if I draw.
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I just got an email from New Mexico where I shot my elk and then loaded some .270 Winchesters with 160 partitions for the ranch hand. His license was for the time ending the 20th of December.
His report was to have taken his cow with one shot at 375 yards. I didn't ask for more info as I was just happy to get that much ....the guy is a worker and not a talker.
At 375 yards the .270 isn't exactly a powerhouse but in this case fully adequate for the job and in this case the 160 partition seems to have been all that was required.
Wish I could provide more info about shot placement etc.....but this I can say....the man is now a "believer" in the 160 partition.
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Vapo,
While I haven't killed an elk with 160 NPs [55gr 4831], I have taken 3-4 moose with that bullet. It works just fine but all shots were lung/heart neck hits where any decent bullet should work.
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Vapo
But..but that .007" makes all the difference in the world.
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Like a lot of Campfire threads, this one went a ways before somebody with real experience posted! Never shot an elk with the 160's, have shot some problem hogs with them..... Pretty much shot to the same point of aim as my regular 130 grain load and did not seem to drop much more at 375-400-ish shots on farm field pigs. They seemed surprisingly efficient considering their shape. They did anchor 200-250 lb pigs DRT, most were running away from us.
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Vapo, all shots were lung/heart neck hits where any decent bullet should work. I'm with this statement all the way.....One don't really have to penetrate very far to get into the boiler room with this presentation.....
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Vapo
But..but that .007" makes all the difference in the world. If you're referring to the difference between the .280 Rem and the .270 Win.....I think the real difference is the typical twist rate.....the .284 tubes are commonly twisted 1-9" and the .270 tubes are typically twisted 1-10".....and the faster twist allows for a 175 spitzer bullet to be used in the .280....something that just might make a small difference when the presentation is other than the broadside shot normally offered. Most interesting was the number of cows I had to pick from when I shot mine.....there was (possibly) fifty of them to pick from and finding one offering the classic broadside shot took less than a second....not necessarily a luxury to be had hunting bulls.
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Damn, Bob, those things sell for serious $$$ to some collectors here! Especially if the box has never been opened, don't ask me why. But I am old enough to know they work real well.... I have two unopened boxes of those in 7MM 140`s and 150`s.Plus one more box of each opened that I worked up loads for in a 280AI I had.They did not group very good for me and kind of got shoved to the back of the bench.
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Surprised that all the while this thread was running no one mentioned they had them over at Shooters pro shop on sale for $14.95/50. They sold really slow as they started with 30 bags and are now down to 2 and it's been about 2 weeks. I was tempted to pick some up but couldn't find the need for anything else listed to help cover shipping. FWIW....I have a friend that I've been loading the 150 hornady spire point in his 270 wby's. He's lucky enough to afford some really nice guided hunts and between him and his wife I can't count the 6x6 elk and bigger they've taken with that bullet. I CANNOT get them to look at any other bullet for their rifles. Plus they shoot like a house of fire in their Rifles Inc guns. He finished up his grand slam of sheep with a 670yd shot.....although I doubt anyone can believe a $.15 bullet could do that!
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