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I'm very sorry to hear about your health issues! I'm pretty screwed up myself! Constant and intense back pain, numerous heart attacks, COPD and other crap!

My doctor refuses to prescribe anything stronger than Tramadol, apparently she thinks it makes her a drug dealer to help relieve pain.

As I'm sure your aware the Tramadol doesn't help much and seemed to cause sleeplessness for me also! She then prescribed Ambien for that!

Be thankful you have a doctor that will help with your pain! After all these years of intense pain, a 357 to the brain is sounding better and better!

I have tried Pot for the pain! Although it seems to take your mind off of it and actually does help to relieve it some, you'll still need more help with the pain! Tramadol can cause breathing problems and especially while smoking Pot along with it!

There was a THC pill of some kind that was offered to my uncle for his cancer, but he told me it was an 800 a month prescription! Who the heck could afford that!

Enjoy the things you can still do while you can! I try to get outside of the house once a day to feed some feral cats that adopted me, but can't do anything else! Even that wipes me out!

I hope ya find some help and relief with your pain! I know how much it sucks and sooner or later it'll make ya wish for death!

Mark,

I am in agreement with the others that believe you should try it and see for yourself what works. My better half has suffered from back problems for 20 years, and it has only got worse. She was prescribed Avenza (time-released morphine)and was still able to function, drive, and work. The telling tale about this is when she went in for a total knee replacement due to arthritis (she was a runner for years). The surgeons talked like she should have her dosage decreased, but they never did decrease it. When she woke up in Recovery, she was screaming at the top of her lungs due to the pain from the surgery. They tried every drug known to man, and finally found one that worked.....it was Delaudid on a pump. Delaudid is 5 times the potency of Heroin!
Needless to say, shortly after her recovery period and the resultant physical therapy, she decided that the Avenza was something she needed to get off of.
The knee replacement allowed her walking posture to improve to the point that it lessened her back pain. She still takes the muscle relaxers and the occasional Vicodin, but she is off the morphine altogether. Thank GOD for that. She now realizes just what a fog she was in when taking the Avenza. She still has pain, but less severe, and she may try for Medical marijuana as she knows that it helps.
Hope this info is helpful, and that you find some relief. Chronic pain is a bitch!
Wishing you the best,

Mark V.B.

BTW, if you choose to stay with opiates


if your taking opiates every 4 hours for pain get off the stuff your on and get on to time release morphine....most pain specialists now believe that time release morphine works in conjunction with certain antidepressants in low doses and oxycodone to deal with break through pain works better than anything else and i have to say having taken opiates daily for 12 years im far happier on it than anything else ive been on.....the roller coaster of taking pain meds every 4 hours sucks.....for the most part i dont notice im on the morphine other than it knocks the pain down aways so that it is tolerable most days.....

i will never willingly go back to the oxy's every 4 hours, that was a miserable way to live....

I've posted this before, marinol did not work for my mom. Pot did. Relieved the pain and eased the nausea.

This...

Stock up on twinkies, doritos (nacho cheese make awesome nachos) and your favorite protein milkshakes, and ferget the stigma...

Hang in and good luck.

People see weed as a mysterious cure all at times. If it was, the specific compounds would have long ago been isolated and refined.

Life on opiates isn't great, but I'm not so sure ganja will be a good substitute. I have no problems with saying it will do no harm to try, but MJ too has its side effects. It may make you worthless and lazy. Work will become a 4 letter word and responsibility three 4 letter words linked together. Paranoia can be a problem. The bastards might really be out to get you this time.:)

However, were my back trashed and my kidneys fried, I'd take a holiday to Amsterdam and do a little investigation.

Good luck whichever path you choose.

Mark,

I also agree on anti-depressants..................strangely enough, they work on the brain receptors and do provide some pain relief...................not all of them work, but a good doctor should know which ones do. Cymbalta works for my wife, and she has no depression issues to deal with.....it is simply used to supress the pain.
Mark V.B.

Mark, you get yourself a transplant kidney and 1/2 of this crap will negate itself.


remember, the DNA will not attack the new kidney


its strange, but wanting those existing kidneys to reach End Stage is the door to a new lease on life. Make sure you're telling everyone with an ear that just one kidney will give you a fresh 10-15year outlook on life.

I should have mentnioned that I am also ON the Cymbalta, and yues it has helped a lot. My joints do not hurt nearly as often or as badly. Now, it is mostly my neck, back and head.

I have considered going off shore to a country where one is allowed to sell a kidney to a person who is a match and will pay for it. Agreed that such a day will be a big help, but I also hear that the antirejection medicines are a real set of new problems.

Mark, PM inbound.

If you can get off the opiates by any means...do it. They will kill surely.

MMJ is an interesting industry in CO. I learned a bit about it helping a friends mom with chronic pain issues.

Their are several ways of taking it such as oils, edibles(brownies, cupcakes, various sweets), and vaporizers.

Also found out that they have developed strains with different characteristics that help with different ailments. This isn't the ditch weed we knew in the 70's.

The only draw back in CO was if you had a MMJ card you couldn't purchase firearms.

There is a lot of info online and many doctors in CO are well versed in it's use.

After taking all that I am simply amazed you are lucid....you must have been a very entertaining conversationalist before your health problems.

Regards.

Ps, take all the help you can in whatever form you can.....just make sure you avoid grog.

actually no, because of the Schedule 1 status its an absolute beotch to actually do just this, if it was knocked down to Schedule 2 with cocaine and Amphetamines then yes you would see lots of what you just described.....the feds made actual indepth study of it by most pharma companies within the states near impossible as well as making such products produced by pharma companies in other countries not able to access one of their largest markets....

Mark, if you take advantage of the new loophole on pot, I hope it works....l.lbut please don't get so high as to exploit the other freedom that came this year....

Mark - For what it's worth, try pot if you want to, but I wouldn't hold out much hope for its doing you much good. What you're on now is probably about as good as you can hope for. Better yet, get that new kidney if you can. God bless you my friend.

Several years ago at least a half dozen of the high school boys working for me were smoking MJ and it affected all of them differently. Some would be real happy, others grouchy, some lazier than usual while others seemed to be more willing workers. One thing in common was that they all seemed to have reduced appetites. They were all slim guys so I don't remember of any of them losing weight and their health was good.

So, as several have said, different strokes for different folks. If I was going to try it, I'd go spend a few days where Rattler is located and learn from him. He has had some bad health type problems and probably knows what he's talking about.

Good luck and let us know how it works for you, if you go that route.

Blasphemy!

Glad someone else spoke on it having different results with different people. I'm a 'happy drunk' and tended to be the same high. Pot had a 'cleaner' affect on me than booze. I would get a very similar feeling when high, but with none of the hangovers and general chittyness that comes with getting chitfaced. I found I could smoke, hang out have a good time, go to sleep and wake up the next day just fine. When the Army started having more frequent drug test, and about that same time I was getting serious with who would end up being my wife I figured it was time to stop it alltogether.

However a friend of mine got hooked pretty bad on it and spent the next 6 or 7 years pissing his and his parent's money away. Thankfully he is straightened out now. Just wanted to point out how differently it can be different people.