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Agreed... one of the 308's many beauties is it's just not that tough on bullets.

Very funny!!

Nice Blacktail but looks under dead.

The PT Gold are almost the same as some of the standard PT that have the partition a little more forward. The steel failsafe thing did prevent the mid drift bulge but that is about it. They do seem to retain more weight and track straighter but hard to say for sure. I would always buy them on closeout and then remove the moly coat. Seemed to run up pressure but otherwise would be in the same group as the standard PT and load.

I think the 165gr PT has a longer shank and the 200 does for sure.

You expect this, or what?

Good job, Musky - and Nosler.

With the thread titled as it is I almost didn't open this thread, I was thinking that this whole board was really going down-hill if someone was seriously trashing a partition as a game bullet. You got me, man...

Dawgin'it,

Several other people have already commented on your post about bullet performance being judged on weight retention, but I still have to make a couple of comments.

First, I judge big game bullet performance by how well any bullet kills animals, not by some after-the-fact statistic. I've been using Nosler Partitions for around 35 years now, and have seen what they do to big game well over 100 times--and that's game from pronghorns to Cape buffalo. They kill VERY well, whether they lose the lead in the front end or not. In fact, overall they've killed at least as quickly and often quicker than bullets retaining more weight.

Two, I have yet to observe a Nosler Partition that didn't penetrate sufficiently, even though some hunters didn't use as much bullet as some experts generally suggest.

Now you can return to entertaining the rest of the posters.

Dumb post of the year from a very inexperienced poster.

If an animal drops in its tracks you got the bullet performance you paid for.

Stop making sense. A few posters were this || close to putting up girly pics.

John is describing exactly my experience. Heck I think the front of a Partition coming apart is why they are so deadly. I've used lots of Partitions in 22, 24, 25, 6.5 and 30 and they are really effective. Now I've only used a TSX three times and a Scirocco once so far so I have limited experience with these bullets, while they killed fine the Partition still seemed to kill quicker.

Muskeg Man, nice buck.

It looks like the 150 PT Gold has more of an ass end to it than the standard .308 cal 150 PT.



Here's one from a (very dead)pronghorn. Broadside, 150-200 yards, 300WSM.

It does seem like the shank portion of the 150 grain .30 caliber is a tad short, doesn't it?

IMO, it is. The 150/30cal NP is one of those I just don't use.

Course the OP is talking about the Partition Gold with the partition more forward. Different bullet really.

The 30 cal Noz 150 PT is one bullet that's given me some challenges in terms of accuracy. Not that me being challenged is anything out of the normal...grin

Dober

Mark,

I've always seen the 150 Partition as something for the .300 Savage and .308 Winchester and others in that class. It often shoots quite well in those rounds. Eileen used one from the .308 to kill a BIG pig in Texas a few years ago. She put the bullet through both shoulders and the spine--and the bullet exited, that other modern measure how well a bullet works.

Must also comment that John Nosler actually designed the Partition's front core to disintegrate. This was because he wanted an all-around bullet, one that would kill deer quickly yet penetrate on bigger game. He was an experienced hunter who'd seen how "softer" bullets killed deer. The front core of Partitions is made out of a relatively soft lead alloy, with less antimony than the cores of all the cup-and-core big game bullets I'm aware of, in order to help it break up and do more damage to the chest cavity.

This also, incidentally, makes Partitions a very effective prairie dog bullet for those who simply must have pass-throughs on PD's, in order to conform to the modern mantra of always exiting. Meanwhile the front core does a pretty good job on the "lift-off" part of prairie doggin'.

Partitions are low BC, but if you can put them where you want them, they are nasty killers.

I've not killed anywhere near the number of animals with them that some here have (maybe 6 or 7), but the ones I have killed all went down quickly.

This year I shot a blacktail buck with a 160gr Partition out of a .280AI. My shot (shooting off-hand) went farther forward than I wanted. The bullet broke the onside humerus in half, broke a rib in half, broke an offside rib in half, broke the offside humerus in half, and then exited. (And it probably only retained 63% of it's weight.)

I don't get the science of it, but I do understand the results. Several experienced shooters have tried to get me to dislike the Partition, but I just can't.

A rather nice summation.

I have a confession to make. The only paritition I have actually used on game is the 95 grain .243" partition. That being said, I have recovered one of those, and the front portion is completely gone. Does this bother me? NOT IN THE LEAST. The deer dropped in it's tracks and was shot directly in the chest. The bullet was recovered in the right ham.

I was taken to task by a fella that used to post here about using the partition in that particular application. He opined that partitions weren't necessary in bulets under the bore size of .30 if I remember correctly. My own convition was that penetration was even more important when hunting with bullets .277" and below.

I really wasn't trying to be a smarta$$, But I couldn't convince him otherwise.

Partitions work when it comes to putting meat in the freezer. They work near and far and they work on animals large and small.

Waaaaaay too easy on him.

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