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There is NOTHING to get in trouble for, you just voiced an objection. They will hear you out and see if you have any real justification for being uncomfortable with not having your gun ie; past gang troubles etc.. Exactly right..
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You might want to remind the DA of the DA shot in the courtroom in Grand Marais Minnesota Last year.
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It isn't always wrong to charge up a hill with your bayonet fixed.
You want to make sure you really, really want that hill though before you start.
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Well, the rotund plant is posting elsewhere on the forum, so he hasn't be reduced entirely to kindling, but he seems mighty quiet on his own thread. Must have got butt clapped at his little meeting.
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I took my concealed carry class in the next county over from mine and the man giving the class had the DA from his county give us a talk. He was very much for the concealed carry law and advised us how to not get in trouble with violations. I really liked the man and talked to him at length after the class. I just with he was the DA in my county. miles
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Where I live they have metal detectors you have to pass through to get into the courthouse and signs that say firearms are not permitted inside the courthouse. We just can't do it here at all.
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There are some seriously paranoid people on here. If you really think it's that bad just say, "No, I can't make it to the meeting." They have nothing to arrest you for (if the conversation went as we were told).
your flippant remarks which you so adeptly sling
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And some irony for you...
I won't let you violate my 2A rights!!! But I will let you waste part of my afternoon my "summoning" me to your office for no reason!!!
Way to stick it to the man...
your flippant remarks which you so adeptly sling
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And some irony for you...
I won't let you violate my 2A rights!!! But I will let you waste part of my afternoon my "summoning" me to your office for no reason!!!
Way to stick it to the man... He was probably a former Hostess union baker.
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I would be careful...around here the sheriff has to approve of any concealed weapons permits. You are walking on thin ice. Not to mention all the DA heard was "judge, gun, court, gun, jury, gun"...
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Before OJ did his dirty, I got out of jury duty by being a smart ass and calling the judge out in the hall and telling him I figured if he was arrested that was good enough for me he was probably guilty. Judge was instantly pi$$ed. Then I watched the OJ fiasco and decided right there I'd never miss an opportunity to be on the jury of a scum bag. Problem is I've never been called since. We are supposed to be judged by a jury of our peers, but that's what OJ got, a jury of malcontents, unemployed, on the dool, hard cases and he got off. If I ever get another chance there will be at least one person speaking for the victim.
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Meeting over with the DA.
DA started by stating the specific reason for the meeting.
1) Did I have specific knowledge that the defendant's, defendant's families or associates issue threats of violence against present or prior judges, law enforcement or jurors?
My reply. No
2) Determine the basis for my objection to serving on a jury due to safety concerns.
My response verbally.
Will there be walk thru or hand held security weapon detectors at the court house entrance or court room?
DA - No
Will there be additional law enforcement in place?
DA - No Bailiff and Deputy Sheriff escorting defendant from jail.
Will the judge be armed?
DA - Do not know and will not ask him.
My lawyer summed up the question and answer session briefly.
"There are going to be violent defendants in your courthouse with known connections to out of state gangs and past criminal records and you demonstrated here today that there is no heightened concern for public safety. It will be business as usual.
My client has deemed serving on a jury under these circumstances not safe unless extraordinary safety measures are put in place or he is allowed to petition the judge for permission to conceal carry a handgun. He asks that you take his objection to serve on a jury to the judge for consideration of a jury exclusion."
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Interesting. Thanks for sharing that.
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That went better than I expected. "Did I have specific knowledge that the defendant's, defendant's families or associates issue threats of violence against present or prior judges, law enforcement or jurors." I didn't see them worrying about that but it's understandable.
A government is the most dangerous threat to man�s rights: it holds a legal monopoly on the use of physical force against legally disarmed victims.
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Life has enough chit in it. Can't see the worth in creating more, particularly when there is zero upside. That's the problem with much of our society they are content to hide under their desks and not challenge the status quo. I saw a safety concern here and decided to run my concerns up the flag pole. NFS
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Well, the rotund plant is posting elsewhere on the forum, so he hasn't be reduced entirely to kindling, but he seems mighty quiet on his own thread. Must have got butt clapped at his little meeting. Sorry to disappoint. You need to improve your reading comprehension. I said yesterday that I had a meeting with the DA today.
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Liberal father: " I fought the Americans, along with all the other liberals."
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Meeting over with the DA.
My response verbally.
Will there be walk thru or hand held security weapon detectors at the court house entrance or court room?
DA - No
Will there be additional law enforcement in place?
DA - No Bailiff and Deputy Sheriff escorting defendant from jail.
Will the judge be armed?
DA - Do not know and will not ask him. I'd say you had some valid concerns with the way they run the courthouse, thats a pretty damnb laxed way of running things. Around here you can't get into the courthouse for any reason with out going through a metal detector first.
Paul
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but bring a friend that can be an independent witness to the conversation... Naw, bring a concealed digital recorder. That should be good In some jurisdictions bringing a recording devise , telephone or, camera into a courthouse is not permitted (e.g., Federal court buildings). I don't know your local ordinances, but ... something to consider.
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