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They reported that the air bags on the Xterra deployed when they put it through some sort of back and forth testing.. The pickup also climbed their "loose hill" test better. Worked better on their stair climb. Picked it's way over the rocks more easily, etc. They both had the V-6. For the Xterra, they said it would have rated higher if the side air bags hadn't deployed. They liked the pickup, saying "It's true the Frontier didn't excite us in any large way, but we really couldn't find fault with it either. Overall it is a great choice as a daily driver that sees weekend use...... " It was the cheapest vehicle to make the top 7, BTW. E The Nissan front diff will totally grenade, housing and all, if you flog it. You can snap a CV axle on a Tacoma for sure, but that is field repairable with a spare part. No Nissan for me.
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Truck looks great, what did you set your Bilsteins at? At the highest setting. I could have maybe set the fronts down a notch. But I wanted to make sure I had plenty of fender clearance for the taller tires. I ordered this truck with a 6 speed.
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What was the difference in costs between your upgrades and the Baja Package on a Tacoma ? E
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What was the difference in costs between your upgrades and the Baja Package on a Tacoma ? E I bought my truck through the Costco program. I figure there is at least 4k to 5k difference between it and the Baja. I also added BMAF sliders, of which I really like. I had them welded to the frame.
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BAMF makes some kick butt sliders! I got a set for my son's '07 Tacoma and liked them so much, I ordered a set for my '12. Mine are gonna get installed either Friday or next week (waiting to hear back from the welder...). We got ours powder coated... Also got the hi-lift jack and mounts: And did the 7-pin relocated under an aftermarket flip-up license plate for both trucks. Both trucks are also equipped with rear air bags - fill nozzles located under the license plate by the relocated 7-pin: Son's truck has Bilstein 5100's set at 1.75", my truck I went w/ the Eibach coils and 0 setting on the 5100's for total lift of 1.6". Very capable, reliable trucks! It's easy to get lost playing around modifying them. David
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They picked them for their January, 2013 edition. The winner is the Jeep w/ the Rubicon Package. No.2 was the Ford w/ the Raptor Package. The best pickup package out there for 4 wheeling. No.3 was the Dodge w/ the Power Wagon Package. Voted the best 3/4 ton 4WD. Last place at #7, was the Nissan Xterra Pro-4X. #6 was the Toyota 4Runner Trail. #5 was the 12 Nissan Frontier Pro-4X. And No.4 was the 2012 Toyota Tacoma TRD T/X Baja Series. Some pretty cool vehicles. Prices running anywhere from about $30,000, for the Xterra Pro, and the Jeep Rubicon to about $42,000 for a Power Wagon or a Raptor. While I'm sure Consummer Reports won't say much good about some of these choices, the article struck me as pretty good food for thought. What'ca think ? E Prices seem way too low to me.
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i love the rubicon but comparing its offroad capabilities with any pickup is really apples to oranges. the wheelbase, type of suspension and ground clearance are key differentiators. better to compare pickup to pickup and jeep to other similiar vehicles. but the rubicon will still come out in front. its purpose built for offroading.
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Silly that they didn't include the FJ Cruiser 4x4 - which is what Toyota touts as their most capable off-road vehicle.
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SU35 - Sweet looking rig!! I like it!!
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They included two Toyotas which tested better. E
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Yep. You get badazz stickers! Yeah but you have to have a dodge to get em. Nobody wants a Dodge.
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My Raptor has served me extremely well.
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How come the FJ Cruiser wasn't in the mix?
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FOsteology, I always wondered what a Raptor would look like WITHOUT the silly simulated dirt decals. The real dirt is a big improvement.
I like the looks of your truck.
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I don't know. You might try going to their website, and seeing if they tested one and what they thought of it. E
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I'm not a serious off-roader; I just use my 4X4 Tacoma off-road for fishing and hunting. The off-roaders I know, though, hold the FJ in pretty high esteem.
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It is largely a matter of taste. I prefer to start with a Ford F-350 diesel and then you don't have to add anything to make it stout or look cool. It gets 24 mpg and hauls a ton of stuff. It has no donkey crap add-ons.
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Yep. You get badazz stickers! Yeah but you have to have a dodge to get em. Nobody wants a Dodge. I never did either, till I wised up and Chevy dropped their trucks till they're practically low-riders. Never been, or will be a Ford guy.
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I like Dodge trucks....almost as much as I like making fun of em. Yours is pretty bad ass, I'll give ya that.
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I can't stand it when the auto magazines compare vehicles and rank them. They typically are comparing apples to oranges, and then rank them based on a feature that is used 1% of the time. Absolutely silly. I stopped reading the magazines in the 90s when they ranked the Ford Ranger higher than the Tacoma based on things like road noise and fuel mileage. Little consideration was given to offload capability or longevity. Out of the group tested, I would take the Power Wagon over the others in a landslide based on overall usefulness, payload, towing, etc... If I'm just traveling off road I'll tow my Yamaha Rhino, or '52 Willys. YMMV.
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