Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 2 of 3 1 2 3
#7167282 - 12/10/12 Re: Jewell vs timney? [Re: Tanner]  
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 20,466
Dirtfarmer Offline
Campfire Kahuna
Dirtfarmer  Offline
Campfire Kahuna

Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 20,466
Central Louisiana
Originally Posted by Tanner
Have the smith tune up your 700 bang switch.
Agree with FVA. I've adjusted some of the older M-700's to a super clean 2.5-3# pull, as good as any custom trigger. If I had one like that, I'd probably stay factory.

I have or have had all the mentioned triggers. For serious long range rifles, I'd go Jewell. Those things are super.

For hunting guns, Timney is good and can be set pretty light. The Shilen is probably a better trigger than the Timney, but properly set up, it would be hard to tell the difference. I even have an HS made trigger, which to me is about like the Shilen. I even have two vintage Canjar hunting triggers, which are works of art. But, fine machining notwithstanding, I can't say the trigger pull is better than a well tuned Timeny or Shilen.

DF

CMG 300 BP

#7167500 - 12/10/12 Re: Jewell vs timney? [Re: Dirtfarmer]  
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 64
JMP Offline
Member
JMP  Offline
Member

Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 64
With few exceptions you generally "get what you pay for." I have had all of the above and strongly recommend a Jewell if you can afford it. I think they are vastly superior to the other options. The only 700 I don't have a Jewell on is an older B prefix action with a very well tuned factory trigger ---if money grew on trees it would have a Jewell too.

My preference is
1. Jewell
2. Properly tuned older factory 700 trigger
3. Shilen

#7173123 - 12/12/12 Re: Jewell vs timney? [Re: JMP]  
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 278
GTN Offline
Campfire Regular
GTN  Offline
Campfire Regular

Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 278
Georgia
No experience with Shilen but,

I am a 1pound kinda guy on my hunting rifles and I am in love with Jewell. I have Timney's and don't dis like but a well tuned factory 700 trigger I actually like better. I would go with the Jewell like you said ain't nothing cheap in custom guns.

#7173180 - 12/12/12 Re: Jewell vs timney? [Re: GTN]  
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 3,507
163bc Offline
Campfire Guide
163bc  Offline
Campfire Guide

Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 3,507
virginia
I have all of em. Best one is the new Remington Mark -X tuned by Neil Jones. Every bit as good or better than any aftermarket including Jewell.

#7173200 - 12/12/12 Re: Jewell vs timney? [Re: 163bc]  
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 6,359
300MAG Offline
Campfire Tracker
300MAG  Offline
Campfire Tracker

Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 6,359
PITTSBURGH, PA
Run the Jewell & don't look back!!

Alpha

#7173455 - 12/12/12 Re: Jewell vs timney? [Re: 163bc]  
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 4,589
ldholton Offline
Campfire Guide
ldholton  Offline
Campfire Guide

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 4,589
lawrence county MO
Originally Posted by 163bc
I have all of em. Best one is the new Remington Mark -X tuned by Neil Jones. Every bit as good or better than any aftermarket including Jewell.
hows that mark-x at 2 oz. ? safe ? hold sear on a bolt slam ?

#7174244 - 12/12/12 Re: Jewell vs timney? [Re: 163bc]  
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 20,466
Dirtfarmer Offline
Campfire Kahuna
Dirtfarmer  Offline
Campfire Kahuna

Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 20,466
Central Louisiana
Originally Posted by 163bc
I have all of em. Best one is the new Remington Mark -X tuned by Neil Jones. Every bit as good or better than any aftermarket including Jewell.

You'll love it until that MIM trigger gets broken... frown

I've never seen photos of the old machined steel M-700 triggers, snapped off by UPS, etc. Maybe bent, never broken.

DF

#7175706 - 12/12/12 Re: Jewell vs timney? [Re: ldholton]  
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 7,171
Ackleyfan Offline
Campfire Tracker
Ackleyfan  Offline
Campfire Tracker

Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 7,171
Originally Posted by ldholton
Originally Posted by 163bc
I have all of em. Best one is the new Remington Mark -X tuned by Neil Jones. Every bit as good or better than any aftermarket including Jewell.
hows that mark-x at 2 oz. ? safe ? hold sear on a bolt slam ?


grin I've played with them all except for a Timney and I can't imagine what you would have to do to them to get them to feel like a Jewell, even at the same pull weight the Jewell has a much better feel!

#7176074 - 12/12/12 Re: Jewell vs timney? [Re: Ackleyfan]  
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 20,466
Dirtfarmer Offline
Campfire Kahuna
Dirtfarmer  Offline
Campfire Kahuna

Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 20,466
Central Louisiana
Originally Posted by Ackleyfan
Originally Posted by ldholton
Originally Posted by 163bc
I have all of em. Best one is the new Remington Mark -X tuned by Neil Jones. Every bit as good or better than any aftermarket including Jewell.
hows that mark-x at 2 oz. ? safe ? hold sear on a bolt slam ?


grin I've played with them all except for a Timney and I can't imagine what you would have to do to them to get them to feel like a Jewell, even at the same pull weight the Jewell has a much better feel!

None are in the same class as the Jewell, IMHO.

To claim otherwise is strange, indeed.

DF

#7176393 - 12/12/12 Re: Jewell vs timney? [Re: Dirtfarmer]  
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,089
406_SBC Offline
Campfire Regular
406_SBC  Offline
Campfire Regular

Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,089
Just south of the 60th paralle...
I've used Jewell triggers in the past. They are no doubt great triggers, if you want a pull measured in ounces.

Anytime I want a pull of 1.5# or greater I'll take a Timney over the Jewell. For hunting I much prefer Timney.......


Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Suck bullets simply suck.

[Linked Image]
Bravo

#7176570 - 12/12/12 Re: Jewell vs timney? [Re: 406_SBC]  
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 20,466
Dirtfarmer Offline
Campfire Kahuna
Dirtfarmer  Offline
Campfire Kahuna

Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 20,466
Central Louisiana
The Jewell is wasted on a heavier trigger pull.

There are a bunch of much less expensive options for such applications. And with that, I agree with you.

DF

#7176587 - 12/12/12 Re: Jewell vs timney? [Re: 406_SBC]  
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,200
rockchuck828 Offline
Campfire Regular
rockchuck828  Offline
Campfire Regular

Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,200
Originally Posted by 406_SBC
I've used Jewell triggers in the past. They are no doubt great triggers, if you want a pull measured in ounces.

Anytime I want a pull of 1.5# or greater I'll take a Timney over the Jewell. For hunting I much prefer Timney.......


The OP is talking about a Remington, the jewell is superior in every way to a Timney for a Remington or Winchester, the only time Timney is the CHOICE is when there is no other aftermarket trigger.......LOVE my Timney Sako trigger's !!!

#7176599 - 12/12/12 Re: Jewell vs timney? [Re: Dirtfarmer]  
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 753
JimHundley Offline
Campfire Regular
JimHundley  Offline
Campfire Regular

Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 753
Texas
IMO, a Jewell doesn't become a "Jewell" until 2 1/2 lbs. and under. The one I have on a hunting rifle had a decernable "hitch" until I adjusted it to two pounds. The one on my bench rifle is set for 2 oz. Very nice !

#7176637 - 12/12/12 Re: Jewell vs timney? [Re: JimHundley]  
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 20,466
Dirtfarmer Offline
Campfire Kahuna
Dirtfarmer  Offline
Campfire Kahuna

Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 20,466
Central Louisiana
Agree with you, Jim.

It seems to me that the Jewell seems more manageable, set light, than the others. A Timney at a pound can feel a bit scary, at least to me. Not so with a Jewell.

DF

#7176729 - 12/12/12 Re: Jewell vs timney? [Re: woodson]  
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 14,789
JSTUART Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
JSTUART  Offline
Campfire 'Bwana

Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 14,789
Land of milk and honey...for s...
Originally Posted by woodson
I've been gathering components for a fast twist 243 since June. SA700 SS is enroute (thanks Raghorn), Micky Edge MR handle, Rock #2 1-8 twist, Ptg BM, and Holland RL. She will be topped with a VX3 2.5x8-36. Last part I need is a trigger. Timney for like $130 vs Jewell for like $230. Now I realize being cheap and custom rifles don't go together. That said, is the Jewell REALLY worth the extra 100 clams??

I've been spamming our classifieds for a "stainless" unit with bolt release and safety (RH) with no luck. Anyone have one they're willing to part with?


If you are after accuracy and have an educated finger then Jewell is the only way, if you have a sporting rifle and your knuckles drag on the ground and/or you are shooting in the cold then Timney is your best bet.


ps, I believe that Arnold is to be cannonised next year.


These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
#7176783 - 12/12/12 Re: Jewell vs timney? [Re: Dirtfarmer]  
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 42,713
Mule Deer Offline
Campfire Oracle
Mule Deer  Offline
Campfire Oracle

Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 42,713
Banana Belt, Montana
For a medium-light pull of 1-2 pounds the Jewell is great, and I would probably choose it over a tuned 700, Timney or Shilen. For a 2-3 pound pull any will do fine.

Under a pound and I like the Jard a lot. Have them on a Remington 700 Classic .221 Fireball and a benchrest 6mm PPC. Very fine triggers.


John

"Gunwriters, as you know, aren't as informed as their readers are and if it wasn't for the readers, there would be no need for writers..."--Shrapnel, May 2015
#7177007 - 12/12/12 Re: Jewell vs timney? [Re: Mule Deer]  
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 13,998
65BR Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
65BR  Offline
Campfire 'Bwana

Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 13,998
I run Jewell's, but have had some OEM 700s, esp the older guns, which have lighter springs, that worked well, though had one that was prone to ADs, so, you may 'Roll the dice' w/a factory trigger.

Hear good things on Shilen. Had a Timney on Swedish Mausers, huge improvement, but not great, but that's just MY ltd experience. On Ruger #1's, the Kepplinger is UNREAL, an expensive albeit worthy investment.

Sounds like running a 2 contour, you want a hunting trigger from 2-3#, I agree w/above, all can give good service. Whether a premium is justified paying for a Jewell is subjective, in this scenario (2-3#).


#7177120 - 12/13/12 Re: Jewell vs timney? [Re: 65BR]  
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 416
10generation Offline
Campfire Regular
10generation  Offline
Campfire Regular

Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 416
I went Timney, my rifle is for the field/hunting, heard from a smith I respect that he has seen Jewell's jam up with dust and dirt from regular use.

Like the Timney.

#7177173 - 12/13/12 Re: Jewell vs timney? [Re: JSTUART]  
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 8,759
ColdBore Offline
Campfire Outfitter
ColdBore  Offline
Campfire Outfitter

Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 8,759
Originally Posted by JSTUART
...and have an educated finger...


You bring up the point that bothers me the most about a Jewell.

The too-narrow trigger itself.

And yes, my trigger finger is quite well-educated.

I like my finger to be able to feel a trigger before I apply pressure. The thinness and shape of the Jewell just doesn't work for me, especially on a hunting rifle.

I have a few on target/groundhog rifles, but no way would I put one on a big game rifle.

Another point... their strong suit is when you need a trigger pull measured in ounces. For a 2-3 pound pull, I can't think of why you'd need a Jewell.

#7177581 - 12/13/12 Re: Jewell vs timney? [Re: 65BR]  
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 20,466
Dirtfarmer Offline
Campfire Kahuna
Dirtfarmer  Offline
Campfire Kahuna

Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 20,466
Central Louisiana
Originally Posted by 65BR
On Ruger #1's, the Kepplinger is UNREAL, an expensive albeit worthy investment.

I agree 100%. The price has gone up since I fitted my .220 Swift #1 with the Kepplinger. It is a fine piece of machinery, no doubt.

DF

#7178555 - 12/13/12 Re: Jewell vs timney? [Re: woodson]  
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 18,881
Eremicus Offline
Campfire Kahuna
Eremicus  Offline
Campfire Kahuna

Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 18,881
Placerville,CA,USA
No experience with Jewell triggers, but I've done several others. I don't like the Timney because the ones I've seen on other rifles and the one I had wouldn't stay put. After a while, they'd develop some creep. My Rifle Basic did that once and settled down. The rebuilt Remington I had was a dream that never changed. All of these were 2 1/4, to 2 3/4 lb. triggers.
For putting up with dust and crude, nothing beats the open designs like the old, pre-64, M70 or the tang safety Ruger.
That unreliable Timney got replaced by an Alaskan Arms M70 on my custom Mauser. Now there is a nice setup. E

Page 2 of 3 1 2 3

Moderated by  RickBin, SYSOP 

AIH 180
AIH 160 1
Who's Online Now
64 registered members (BlueK9, budman5, 79S, browningcollector, 6 invisible), 418 guests, and 324 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod









Copyright © 2000-2018 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
 
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.0
Page Time: 0.060s Queries: 15 (0.003s) Memory: 1.0432 MB (Peak: 1.3439 MB) Zlib enabled. Server Time: 2017-11-24 09:17:13 UTC