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really bad show.... it makes it look like everyone in Alaska is a criminal.... Just the Valley!
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A 45-70 Magnum! I have one, but I call it a 45-90.
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I watched that episode of A.S.T last night. I was a little bothered by the "45-70 magnum" segment. But what really pissed me off was when that guy was sleeping in his truck outside the stripclub in Fairbanks. The guy gets the police called on him for having a handgun then gets a D.U.I.!??? In my mind he was doing the right thing. I say good for him for know better than to drive. I feel like he should have been rewarded for not starting up his pickup and plowing into a honda civic at a red light. Instead the guy does the right thing and decides to sleep it off and gets put in cuffs? B###S%%%!!!!! The problem there is a lack of discretion being allowed the Troopers. Or even city cops in AK. MADD pulls a lot of political strings there and DUI is one that has caused more than one political firestorm behind the scenes. If you are in a vehicle, in "control" of the keys, and have been drinking, your "progressive" legislature has seen fit to call that DUI, and the "progressive" judges have seen fit to pass case law that allows it. I know, it sucks. In prehistoric times, when I was with AST, then APD, there WAS discretion. Not any more, and the ones out there now have had it beat into them. How many guys (and gals) who knew they had too much to drink, crawled into their car or truck, turned the engine on to keep from freezing to death, and slept it off? Probably thousands, and a lot of them were checked on by the local LEO's and warned against driving until they were sober, or were given a lift home if close by. Not any more. BTW, I watched a couple of episodes when it first came on to see any of my old coworkers, then quit after seeing the "editing" that was being done to highlight the drama and seeing Troopers playing it up for the cameras. TOTALLY unprofessional! Rant off... Ed
"Not in an open forum, where truth has less value than opinions, where all opinions are equally welcome regardless of their origins, rationale, inanity, or truth, where opinions are neither of equal value nor decisive." Ken Howell
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I've seen one episode. This meathead of a trooper was at a guy's bait station and getting all tactical as he approached the bait carrying his shotgun at low ready. Sort of an indian or mexican looking guy. Next thing you know he's calling some guys that had been stopped along the road stupid because they were outside of the pickup and they left when they saw him coming. Total douchebag!!
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Again, I ask the question - "Why do you guys waste your time on that crap?" Bear in Fairbanks
"Unless you're the lead dog, the scenery never changes." Amazingly, I've lived long enough to see a President who is worse than Carter. And finally, Gun control means using two hands.
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Folks can only pick on bender so much before its time for a break in it. You know, those kenai type folks get a tad emotional at times.
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Yeah, we got tender feelers!
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time. --Pat Parelli
American by birth; Alaskan by choice. --ironbender
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Campfire Ranger
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I watched that episode of A.S.T last night. I was a little bothered by the "45-70 magnum" segment. But what really pissed me off was when that guy was sleeping in his truck outside the stripclub in Fairbanks. The guy gets the police called on him for having a handgun then gets a D.U.I.!??? In my mind he was doing the right thing. I say good for him for know better than to drive. I feel like he should have been rewarded for not starting up his pickup and plowing into a honda civic at a red light. Instead the guy does the right thing and decides to sleep it off and gets put in cuffs? B###S%%%!!!!! Really? That's not right if that's what happened. That's why people don't trust cops right there. Ya well this is the BS of it all, you can sleep it off in your car and they can't do anything....unless the key is in the ignition. So if you ever decide to sleep it off, do it without the radio on.
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Uhhhh.... Wrong!
Here you simply need to have control of the key to get a DUI... Driving or parked.
Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.
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Maybe some states have different laws concerning the keys, but I know Sitka is correct about the keys in a lot of states, here in the NE for sure. If they are anywhere accessible to the driver, back seat, outside on the ground, doesn't matter, it's a DUI/DWI. The days are pretty much over for sleeping it off in your car unless you hide the keys really well, if I tried that, I'd never remember where the hell I hid them. I manage to avoid the aggravation of "reality" shows by not watching TV period.
"The day I went to work everybody showed up to watch Johnny Luster work. Well, they had a wheelbarrow there, and said I was to push that thing around all day. I looked at it, then turned around and headed for the mountians..."
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I have heard both; Control of the keys and keys in the ignition. I guess the key is not to get the cops called on you when your sleeping in your truck. I still say that poor bastard got the chit end of the stick on that show. The message the troopers sent was- if your four pillow case to the breeze, your better off rolling the dice and getting that pickup home. Police always say "if your honest with me this will be way easier" When they say that let that, let that breaker box in your head pop and bullchit like you never have before!
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Got me for doing it here in TN. Cop told me "you shoulda tossed the keys in the bed of the truck." To which I replied "I would've if it wasn't 25 degrees, I was cold" The cop was sympathetic but said he had to haul me in and charge me even though I straight up told him I had no interest in driving and chancing hurting someone else. And that was true. I tried to call a friend to get me but he had his phone on vibrate... However my friend who was a firefighter in another town called the arresting officer and discussed it with him and told him I tried. plus another friend who is a decent lawyer saved my day. I learned a valuable lesson but I slept it off in the truck several times though. So play it safe and toss the keys in the back and carry a blanket I reckon.
First post, been lurking a while but I had to comment.
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Just tossing the keys in the back of the truck is not good enough here... If you CAN get at them you are busted.
Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.
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I suspect it truly wouldn't be enough here either. But you'd have a fighting chance in court and if the cop didn't see them you might be OK all around.
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Shee-it. "If you,re honest with me this will be way easier." Transalation-"I,m fishin for more crap, throw me a bone."
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Watched that episode and distinctly recall the cops telling him they had to cite him for DUI, because he left the keys in the ignition. Don't know what else to think, other than that was the determining factor??
In these parts ya can be cited if the vehicle is running, even if you've pulled well off the road and are asleep. Never heard of anyone being cited if the keys are in the ignition, engine off, unless they're illegally parked? Quit drinking/carousing over 22 years ago, so it ain't an issue any longer.
Don't watch much "reality TV" other than AST at times, but some nights there ain't a damn thing on and my eyes hurt if I read too long.
If three or more people think you're a dimwit, chances are at least one of them is right.
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Its amazing to me that you can put "Alaska" in the title of any crappy reality show, and people will watch it.
On the other hand, there is a new show due out next year that chronicles the spread of STDs from Chilcoot Charlie's, which looks interesting. Its called "Deadliest Crotch", and I think it will be narrated by Mike Rowe.
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There you go again, bragging about your new job...
Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.
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Its amazing to me that you can put "Alaska" in the title of any crappy reality show, and people will watch it.
On the other hand, there is a new show due out next year that chronicles the spread of STDs from Chilcoot Charlie's, which looks interesting. Its called "Deadliest Crotch", and I think it will be narrated by Mike Rowe. Deadliest crotch? I minimize crotch critter catch by shaving. When your splashing gear you gotta think safety first. LOL
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There you go again, bragging about your new job... I know you're just itching to watch this show...
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