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Be interesting to see how long it is until some other "news organization" picks up on this. ==============
Point taken and I've been searching other sources to see if it's gaining traction or simply another example of news entities inventing their own version of the news.
Does anyone have Biden's email address? I wanna F with him and forward the vid. I tried searching too and couldn't find that exact clip but I did find another Pete Williams report where he was absolutely incorrect regarding other details. In early hours following the shooting NBC/Pete was spreading crap without verifying the accuracy of the rumors. If someone was skilled at splicing stuff together, there's no shortage of raw material to make up a "news video" to report anything you want it to claim. I'm not saying that's the case here, and I'm glad Bob posted it, but it doesn't smell all that fresh.
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Guess it's possible he took a bushmaster inside and another rifle was left in the trunk.
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My gut tells me William's broadcast is yet another example of reckless reporting.
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A little off-track, but I wanna know why the man was so careful about removing and destroying his hard drives. That's had my attention for a while too, Pat... Because his mother most likely had the weapons locked in a safe and deviant nut job most likely put a hidden web cam facing the safe, so that he could learn the combo. He probably wanted to wipe the video.
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I recommend that those who know how to do it hotlink the newsclip to their representatives AND their Senators regardless of party affiliations. That way they can be justly accused of supporting a baldfaced LIE if they choose to follow the fools path. That would be a nice public skinning.
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My gut's bigger than yours and is in complete agreement.
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The takers won't let the facts mess up a chosen agenda, you can bet your arse on that. Very true.
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A little off-track, but I wanna know why the man was so careful about removing and destroying his hard drives. That's had my attention for a while too, Pat... Because his mother most likely had the weapons locked in a safe and deviant nut job most likely put a hidden web cam facing the safe, so that he could learn the combo. He probably wanted to wipe the video. Still, why? He knew he wasn't coming back from this. He knew he would be dead soon, so why bother hiding anything? What would it matter to him that anybody found out how he learned the combo? I still don't get what he was trying to hide and why.... It may not matter though, I guess, as crazy is as crazy does...
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Go to you Tube and make the video full size and you can clearly see that it's not an AR. It's some gun with a right side charging handle and I believe I can see a large green shell coming out of it when the officer rakes the action. Looks like a semi-auto 12 gauge of some type. That's not an AR they're checking in the trunk.Not at all.
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Why is the alleged number of guns the murderer had important? What is important is that a murderer murdered 26 people and he alone was responsible for his crimes, not the guns he used.
If the murderer had murdered 26 people with a machete, the press would have reported that the murderer used to shoot guns.
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Looks like a shotgun with a pistol grip to be honest, like a turkey or tactical shotgun.
I do like how Barnie Fife acts like he's never touched a shotgun before. And this was their "expert", one assumes.
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A little off-track, but I wanna know why the man was so careful about removing and destroying his hard drives. That's had my attention for a while too, Pat... Lanza was withdrawn and secretive. Those two things go hand in hand and bottom line he wanted to cover up his past. That's the motive for doing it but it remains to be seen what exactly he wanted to hide. It wouldn't have to be something sinister but just embarrassing. Maybe he was into gay porn?
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If you turn the sound up all the way at the 1:32 mark, someone says "it looks like an assault weapon, right?"
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Many people are perfectly satisfied to let a found Mauser morph into a Mannlicher-Carcano when it better suits the official version of the event; I suppose the same process could be applied here.
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Still, why?
He knew he wasn't coming back from this. He knew he would be dead soon, so why bother hiding anything? What would it matter to him that anybody found out how he learned the combo?
I still don't get what he was trying to hide and why....
It may not matter though, I guess, as crazy is as crazy does...
The Bolded would be my guess. It's possible that Simple Jack hadn't already planned his suicide. I think most people, even whacked nut jobs would have trouble going through with something like this, if they were 100% sure they were dying. Even a dysfunctional nut job like this punk, probably recognized the gravity of his actions as the adrenaline started to wear off.
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If you turn the sound up all the way at the 1:32 mark, someone says "it looks like an assault weapon, right?" I assume the audio is from the helo? To reporters, anything with a pistol grip and black is an "assault weapon".
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Still, why?
He knew he wasn't coming back from this. He knew he would be dead soon, so why bother hiding anything? What would it matter to him that anybody found out how he learned the combo?
I still don't get what he was trying to hide and why....
It may not matter though, I guess, as crazy is as crazy does...
The Bolded would be my guess. It's possible that Simple Jack hadn't already planned his suicide. I think most people, even whacked nut jobs would have trouble going through with something like this, if they were 100% sure they were dying. Even a dysfunctional nut job like this punk, probably recognized the gravity of his actions as the adrenaline started to wear off. could be he just didn't comprehend the idea of death the way that normal people do. Hard to find any reasoning in a mental nut case.
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Still, why?
He knew he wasn't coming back from this. He knew he would be dead soon, so why bother hiding anything? What would it matter to him that anybody found out how he learned the combo?
I still don't get what he was trying to hide and why....
It may not matter though, I guess, as crazy is as crazy does...
The Bolded would be my guess. It's possible that Simple Jack hadn't already planned his suicide. I think most people, even whacked nut jobs would have trouble going through with something like this, if they were 100% sure they were dying. Even a dysfunctional nut job like this punk, probably recognized the gravity of his actions as the adrenaline started to wear off. could be he just didn't comprehend the idea of death the way that normal people do. Hard to find any reasoning mental nut case. Agree. Whack jobs and paranoia are usually not too far from each other. Would be a natural action for a sneaky little nut job.
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Rest assured the press will not dwell on the facts if they ever do surface. Even in this instance, their negative bias will still be focused on black rifles.
In today's world there's truly a race to report and few if any bother to verify their supposed facts. Errors, retractions, or apologies will most likely never show up, and if they do they'll be in fine print somewhere on page 12. Had a child come running out of the school screaming that the world was flat it would have made the headlines.
On 9-11 there were initial reports of 20 or 30,000 deaths/injuries. Even from my west coast view, I did not think that possible. Yes, the buildings might have had that capacity, but the masses did not stay at their desks on the lower floors as the events unfolded.
I think any 9 year old from one of our hunter ed classes could have done a walk through and correctly quantified the type of arm, it's action, and it's location there in Ct.
Also, I was curious at that first reporting on how a medical examiner would know from a cursory look at bodies that a rife was responsible. Such knowledge would have required some retained slugs at least.
The press will interview anyone and everyone and blindly accept and publish everything said. There are too many agencies involved, and each is dispersing it's own version. In about a week I would hope that someone will winnow through the garbage and present the facts. One could write a book on all the misrepresentations kicked out. It would indeed be nice if folks could be held accountable for their reporting errors.
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