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#7226991 - 12/25/12 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: colorado]  
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I know it's not in the same class as a 500, but a 18" 45-75 P+ 300gr rung my bell unexpectedly. crazy



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#7227783 - 12/25/12 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: AkMike1]  
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Originally Posted by AkMike1
Here's a couple of other pics of shooting it.


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Yikes!! eek

#7228294 - 12/26/12 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: EricM]  
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Yes Yikes! No desire to shoot that big boy


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#7230508 - 12/26/12 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: GeorgiaBoiler]  
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500 A Square
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They all hurt me when I shoot them

#7231226 - 12/26/12 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: rem40xb1]  
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Ok, let's see best scope cut or shoulder bruise lol ...


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#7231314 - 12/26/12 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: colorado]  
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I had a 20" 458lott in a Kevlar stock that was around the 7lb range. The 500grainers would shake the snot out of you. It was dropped more than once by folks who werent quite ready, of course i always told them the truth on the recoil :)never wanted to scope it.


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#7231402 - 12/26/12 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: Joel/AK]  
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458 Lott. Then there was the 12 ga with a metal base plate but the 338 from the prone position rattled my cage. The snot shaker par exellance was the 460 Wby.

I now have reason to believe the most dangerous place on one of those cannot clearly be defined as the muzzle.


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#7231578 - 12/26/12 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: Chipolopolo]  
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"Most felt recoil" does not necessarily mean biggest cartridge. Some stock deigns are rude and exagerate recoil sensations unreasonably.



#7233099 - 12/27/12 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: dogwater]  
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Along with stock design and weight of rifle, I'd have to say that weight or rather lack of it, really is the reason for painful kicks. I'v owned and shot a bunch of big bore double rifles and bolt actions and since the heavy ones created less felt recoil, I found them OK to shoot. I have a 10# 338 that I really like to shoot....but since I'm not able to do much anymore, it's going up for sale.

A guy I know had a #1 customized to a 416 Rigby and I vowed that never again would I shoot it. Light weight rifles are for light weight ammo.....and just the reverse is true IMO.

#7233225 - 12/27/12 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: Sawtoothhigh]  
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My 500 Jeffery weighs 11.25 lbs without scope (12 lbs with). It has two 12 oz mercury recoil reducers installed and the balance is perfect for me. If it was a pound and a half lighter it would be zero fun to shoot, for me at least.


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#7244738 - 12/30/12 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: colorado]  
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I own a CZ .458 Lott and it is a pussy cat compared to my light Model 700 in .338 RUM. I touched of about 7 rounds of the bench in that biyatch and I was speaking in tongues for about 3 days afterward!!! Too much for me! I sold it and use my .338-06 for 98% of my 338 needs.


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#7245099 - 12/30/12 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: colorado]  
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Originally Posted by colorado
My 500 Jeffery weighs 11.25 lbs without scope (12 lbs with). It has two 12 oz mercury recoil reducers installed and the balance is perfect for me. If it was a pound and a half lighter it would be zero fun to shoot, for me at least.

My 500 Jeffery was 9 lbs without scope, not quite 10 lbs with scope. I do not own that rifle anymore...


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#7245735 - 12/30/12 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: DPhillips]  
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Originally Posted by DPhillips
Originally Posted by colorado
My 500 Jeffery weighs 11.25 lbs without scope (12 lbs with). It has two 12 oz mercury recoil reducers installed and the balance is perfect for me. If it was a pound and a half lighter it would be zero fun to shoot, for me at least.

My 500 Jeffery was 9 lbs without scope, not quite 10 lbs with scope. I do not own that rifle anymore...


My 505 Gibbs weighs 10 lbs even, I dont run a scope on it, the 600 gr Woodleighs at 2450 fps really boot, I have backed this round of reloads back down to a more civil 2250 fps. wink

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#7246080 - 12/30/12 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: gunner500]  
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The difference between the recoil of a 458 Win Mag and a 500 Jeffery or even more so a 505 Gibbs of roughly the same weight and stock design really has to be experienced. I'm not a big guy, 5'9" 185 lbs, but I can shoot boxes of ammo through a 9 lb 458 Win Mag. One box (20 rounds) offhand through my 500 Jeffery and I'm still smiling but I'm done for the day.

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#7246951 - 12/30/12 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: colorado]  
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Yessir, I've still been grinning after being hit by a freight train or two as well. grin

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#7247445 - 12/31/12 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: gunner500]  
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I've shot several different big-bore calibers (.40 and above) and none were too painful because they were in guns designed to make the recoil manageable (or at least not too painful). The only ones I have fired and refuse to again are the .375RUM and .378 Weatherby in sporter weight rifles- they just flat out hurt. It's not necessarily how many foot pounds are delivered - it's how their recieved...

#7247565 - 12/31/12 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: Redleg172]  
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I absolutely agree, back in the mid 90's my 378 WBY developed a slight bulge at 12 o'clock between the top two cuts of the magna-port, I believe magna-port used to make the cuts a bit larger but stopped on the smaller contour WBY barrels.

Anyway, I had the Smith cut the barrel to 24" and recrown, already had the rifle steel bedded in a Pacific Research syn stock [IIRC they were later Rimrock stocks], without the magna-port and in that syn stock that 378 WBY was the rudest and loudest weapon I have ever touched off to date.

The 300 gr Partitions and a very large charge of IMR-4350 plain sucked from the bench. cry

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#7251894 - 12/31/12 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: gunner500]  
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I have 9 378 Weatherby rifles of various vintages including a 20" carbine and will shoot any and all of them any time compared to those darn 12 ga pump shotguns using 3-1/2" loads. Way too light with crappy stocks. The only guns that have ever hurt me from a 577 Nitro down has been those evil pump guns.

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#7252004 - 01/01/13 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: gunner500]  
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Originally Posted by gunner500


My 505 Gibbs weighs 10 lbs even, I dont run a scope on it, the 600 gr Woodleighs at 2450 fps really boot, I have backed this round of reloads back down to a more civil 2250 fps. wink

Gunner


You're an animal! When I first fired my .500 A-Sq with 600 grains at 2450 I thought the rifle had hurt me. It just was all over me. My right arm was numb for 30 minutes aftwerwards, and I was really fretting that I might not get the feeling back until it started tingling again. I wrote the editor of Rifle magazine to ask him about big loads since I'd seen some articles in the rag and thought he might know. He did; told me to pack the case with H-4831 and I'd be good. This was back in 1996. My rifle was 11.25 pounds. The memory still makes me dizzy.
I started loading shells with H-1000 and H-870 then began to bring the velocity back up with IMR-7828 and RL-22 in stages. It took me a year before I could pull the laynard at full velocity again. Yeesh.




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#7252525 - 01/01/13 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: Wbypoor]  
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Dang Wbypoor, ya need a few more 378's LOL, mine so described wasnt the hardest kicking rifle, it was just a rude nasty ill-mannered bucking sombish, that syn stock may have made it close to a pound lighter, not to mention losing a bit over 2"s of barrel length.

TKK, I ran those 600 gr Woodleighs to max velocity to settle in the stock bedding with the cross-bolts, just wanted to make sure all would hold together well, it does shocked, the 600 gr PP soft points at 2250 fps will perform better at the lower speed, makes a much nicer rifle to fire as well. grin

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#7253462 - 01/01/13 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: gunner500]  
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i'm a lightweight compared to some of you guys but i have a win 94 timber carbine in 450 marlin that is obnoxious off the bench. it weighs 6 lbs and has a ported 18" barrel. not so bad in the woods but off the bench it is obnoxious.


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#7253688 - 01/01/13 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: gunner500]  
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Originally Posted by gunner500
Dang Wbypoor, ya need a few more 378's LOL,


I'm in total agreement with you brother. #10 is in the works and I've got one eye looking for #11...a Jap with exceptional wood. I'd like #12 to be a Mark V born in 1960, same as me. Then I'll be done. Maybe.



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#7253914 - 01/01/13 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: Wbypoor]  
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I hit the dirt in '63, may have to look around and find a really nice LazerMark or ClassicMark II in 378 WBY again. wink

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#7257583 - 01/02/13 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: gunner500]  
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Originally Posted by gunner500
I hit the dirt in '63, may have to look around and find a really nice LazerMark or ClassicMark II in 378 WBY again. wink

Gunner


Good luck with your hunt, those two critters are mighty shy.


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