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Personally I think S&K's are ugly, but to each his own. Hideous.  ![[Linked Image]](http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab255/nsaqam/SAM_0294.jpg) But you're right, to each his own
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nsaqam,
The reason a lot of people have mentioned Talley Lightweights despite the OP saying he wants steel is because they know his assumption that aluminum mounts are ALWAYS weaker than steel is BS.
With this I wholeheartedly agree.
The Chosin Few November to December 1950, Korea.
I'm not one of the Chosin Few but no more remarkable group of Americans ever existed.
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Personally I think S&K's are ugly, but to each his own. Hideous. But you're right, to each his own They make a Hubble look even worse 
“Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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WOW, never heard of a 40mm Conquest referred to as a Hubble but the pic certainly does make it look like one. 
The Chosin Few November to December 1950, Korea.
I'm not one of the Chosin Few but no more remarkable group of Americans ever existed.
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nsaqam,
The reason a lot of people have mentioned Talley Lightweights despite the OP saying he wants steel is because they know his assumption that aluminum mounts are ALWAYS weaker than steel is BS.
With this I wholeheartedly agree. Absolutely....
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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So far I've got a few rings to look into that I've never used/ heard of before. My dislike for aluminum rings spawns from stripped screws, and bent rings... Not during use but during installation/removal. Personally I've never had any luck with them. Not trying to say they are weaker or starting anything... Just saying personally I prefer steel. S&K will most likely be my next ring purchase. I like a company that stands behind their product. S&K site
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I have used S&K mounts for years, great product, and excellent customer service.
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Nightforce Ultralight or Badger.
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There are a lot of durable, life time capable rings made of both aluminum and steel out there.
Depending on application some have merit over others.
Blanket condemnation based on material type show the thinker likely has other areas to beef up first.
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Near Mfg. Richard Near manufactures functional art. His Alpha units may not be stronger than all the others, but I doubt any are stronger than his system either.
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Brad- I looked at the S&K but cannot tell how they lock down the scope? Can't tell from the sight and have not seen complete pics of them. Yours look nice. For now I am pretty sold on Talley but am open minded. Not a fan of the look of vertical rings. It is like the rifle got a mohawk! 
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S&K use a steel strap with projections on the bottom. You wrap the rings around the scope and stick those projections in the bases. Opposing cone point set screws in the bases are then screwed in squeezing the ring projections together securing the scope.
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nsaqam,
The reason a lot of people have mentioned Talley Lightweights despite the OP saying he wants steel is because they know his assumption that aluminum mounts are ALWAYS weaker than steel is BS.ece bases. This isn't true, because 1-piece bases typically use 3 screws, while 2-piece bases use 4 screws. That's exactly why I replied the way I did. But it appear that he's already made his mind up.
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Well I used just about every kind of mount going since I started shooting 50 + years ago. I like several of the ones mentioned. But if I decide that I can't live with out an Blaser R-8. I think I am going to break with tradition, and go with a Rail Mounts rather than rings. Warnes and Talleys are my favorites. Thou I used a lot of Sako's on a number of sako rifles I owned in including a Sako 75 in 338. The key is having the mounts properly installed, not every Joe two thumbs at the gun shop can do that. Most all the scope mount problems I have seen were not due to the mount but to poor installation.
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S&K, Conetrol or steel Talleys are all nicer steel rings and good choices, IMO. I like the S&Ks for their combination of strength, looks and lightweight. I've had several pairs of Talley LWs, still have one on a 223, and mine have worked OK. Friends have had them break though, and that definitely makes me less inclined to put them on a 'serious' rifle. OMMV... 
I've seen more well-shot game lost with TSXs than any other premium bullet.
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S&K, Conetrol or steel Talleys are all nicer steel rings and good choices, IMO. I like the S&Ks for their combination of strength, looks and lightweight. I've had several pairs of Talley LWs, still have one on a 223, and mine have worked OK. Friends have had them break though, and that definitely makes me less inclined to put them on a 'serious' rifle. OMMV... The key is having the mounts properly installed, not every Joe two thumbs at the gun shop can do that. Most all the scope mount problems I have seen were not due to the mount but to poor installation. I agree, also if the bridge of the receiver is not properly machined and things are out of alignment you may have problems with the talley lightweights....but that is definately not the fault of the talley system, it's the cheap azz rifle you are puting them on!!
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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S&K, Conetrol or steel Talleys are all nicer steel rings and good choices, IMO. I like the S&Ks for their combination of strength, looks and lightweight. I've had several pairs of Talley LWs, still have one on a 223, and mine have worked OK. Friends have had them break though, and that definitely makes me less inclined to put them on a 'serious' rifle. OMMV... The key is having the mounts properly installed, not every Joe two thumbs at the gun shop can do that. Most all the scope mount problems I have seen were not due to the mount but to poor installation. I agree, also if the bridge of the receiver is not properly machined and things are out of alignment you may have problems with the talley lightweights....but that is definately not the fault of the talley system, it's the cheap azz rifle you are puting them on!! Customized Winchesters and Remingtons, fully trued. In the case of the M70s, bridges surface ground true. Cheap? OK.
I've seen more well-shot game lost with TSXs than any other premium bullet.
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I have and have had most all the steel rings mentioned in this thread. And I have a few rifles with Talley Lightweights and a few with Burris Signatures.
But for me Leupold Dual Dovetails are my favorite all steel ring and base system. Just simple, snag free sleek, and super strong.
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I must be gettin' really old. I still like my Tildens.
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S&K, Conetrol or steel Talleys are all nicer steel rings and good choices, IMO. I like the S&Ks for their combination of strength, looks and lightweight. I've had several pairs of Talley LWs, still have one on a 223, and mine have worked OK. Friends have had them break though, and that definitely makes me less inclined to put them on a 'serious' rifle. OMMV... The key is having the mounts properly installed, not every Joe two thumbs at the gun shop can do that. Most all the scope mount problems I have seen were not due to the mount but to poor installation. I agree, also if the bridge of the receiver is not properly machined and things are out of alignment you may have problems with the talley lightweights....but that is definately not the fault of the talley system, it's the cheap azz rifle you are puting them on!! Customized Winchesters and Remingtons, fully trued. In the case of the M70s, bridges surface ground true. Cheap? OK. I've never had a problem so wtf is yours? You are doing something wrong..... 
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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