One of my stainless SUCKS in a McMillan sporting some flavor of Leupold, likely a 6x42 or 2-7x33.
That's what I miss about Alaska, I carried a rifle damn near daily. Miles upon miles strapped on an ATV, in a skiff, backpack or hands. Lots of coastal crap and 15 feet of rain a year. Fishing, running a trap line, fugging around.
I could and do like the 2-7x33 I have, if I could turn the dang power ring quickly without using a pipe wrench; especially in winter when it really gets stiff. Been putting off sending it back. Leupold said they will loosen it up.
Yea I could see how you would miss that. Hell, I miss reading about it.
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Originally Posted by battue
...So lets say all of a sudden you have to live off a rifle on a daily basis or you have to guide for a living...You do have to have a dependable rifle that will take the mud, rain and snow as part of its check off sheet. You shoot mainly plus sized animals and not 1in squares. You only have one or two rifles and they must work when you call on them...
Proven factory offering that will sprint or slog to the finish, or unknown test dummy that has no longterm down and dirty track record?...
1--Pre '64 M70, .30-06
2--Sako 75 .260 Rem.
"There's more to optics than meets the eye."--anon
"...most of us would be better off losing half a pound around the waist than half a pound on our rifle."--dhg
In all honesty my Model 70 SS Classic in 338wm. It wears a Macmillan stock and a NXS 2.5-10x32. The whole package is accurate and bombproof. That rifle and I have been through swamps, over mountains, hill and dale, stuck in muskeg on my quad, rain, snow, many miles of trail and forest, etc - you name it. I wipe it off and it always shoots true.
The back up would be my 59 FN Browning Safari in 3006. It wears a Macmillan stock, fresh bluing, a 2.5-8x35 VX3, and it still has it's original iron sights(which shoot very well too). This one took a little while to dial in after the refit but it has turned into an accurate and bombproof rig as well.
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Neat "what if" scenario.
The one that'd be on the shoulder constantly would be a twenty-five caliber, with a Leupy of some sort. I'd have 75-grain V-Max's in one pocket, 80-grain TTSX's in another, and 120-grain Partitions in the rifle. Probably a .25-06, and more than likely a G33/40 Mauser '98.
The "could be somethin' BIG over the hill" rifle would be a Ruger #1, chambered in 375 H&H, with open sights, Savage 116, in 338 Win Mag, with open sights gotta think about the second one; big power, long range, or both??????
This one: Cast bullets for edible small game, JHP pistol ammo for sheer destructiveness on non-edible game & plinking. 150 gr SPs for hog sized critters, 180-200 gr SP for deer, and 220-250 gr for big stuff. Old school...., 35 Remington
Many interesting responses and Ruger seems to have a fine reputation for being a no nonsense dependable rifle one can count on. Also seems more than a few think they would be stuck somewhere out West or in a place like Alaska and didn't consider having the local being further East.
When I threw the question out I didn't think all that much re my own answer, and after sleeping on it, this came to me this AM. Omitting the guiding avocation, and just making a living off of two rifles, my choice would be a well built rifle in a .22Hornet or even a .22Mag-I think CZ makes those-especially If I was roaming East of the Mississippi. Stuff your pocket full of shells and you are good to go; from small game to Deer at reasonable ranges. Lots of ammo and little carrying weight.
My big rifle would be a solid Winchester pre 64 Model 70 or a Ruger, both in .308W. More than enough cartridge for most everything and if you reload your own has a smaller appetite for powder, with the resulting less cost per round, more rounds per pound and less weight to carry around.
battue I don't see my choices as being much different from what I use now or what I've used for general hunting the past 40 years or so.
Mostly, this has been a Model 70(pre 64 or Classic)or Mauser 98,dropped in a good synthetic,with a 22" barrel for standard calibers (270,280,or 30/06);or a 24" barrel for magnum cartridges.They have all been built "light"(relatively for what they were),with an eye toward durability.Sometimes SS and sometimes CM.
So chamberings have varied over the years and there are lots of good choices but the general utlity of a 30/06 or 375H&H can't be denied.
In the east,I found out years back that I was not terribly handicapped in the brush for fast shooting with a light bolt action.The same rifles have been used east and west,because I hate things that are complicated,and my experience has been that only about 100-200 yards seperates the game I have killed in the west, from the longest distances I have dealt with in the east.Might be where and how I hunt but has been true for me nonetheless.
I have yet to have a snafu that I could blame on my equipment.
Bob, I think all have given responses that would work and we all have our favorites that have served us well over time. You are correct in that for the most part not getting it done rests with us and not solid equipment made by any manufacturer.
Now, the sun is out, the cold snap has broke, the Grouse should be out enjoying the day while refilling their crop, it should be a magnificent day to be roaming and I'm going to try and find a Grouse for dinner. I need one in light of the fact that after cleaning the last one, I left it on the countertop while I disposed of the carcass and Toby thought he deserved it more than me. He's right, so I can't be all that putout.
a very interesting topic. I only have two centerfire rifles, both left handed Ruger Hawkeyes, both wearing McMillan stocks.
Unfortunately, left-handed stainless wasn't available when I got my Ruger hawkeyes. So guess I'd have to get them cherakoted coated then?
Anyways, ones a 308win with Leupold FXII 6x42 while the other is 223rem with Leupold VXIII 3.5-10x40mm.
I picked those calibers because I can use Varget powder to reload both cartridges thus simplifying things.
In 223rem, I can load either 60gr v-max for my varmnit/predator hunting then load 60gr nosler partition (or 62gr tsx) to push its use on whitetail deer here in western pennsylvania.
For 308win, I can load cheap cup n core 150gr hornady interlocks for practice and/or deer hunting, or just load 150gr nosler partition as a good overall hunting load, or perhap a 150gr barnex tsx/ttsx for whatever the partition/cup n core couldn't handle.