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Originally Posted by WTM45
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Wake up men, the NRA is the primary tool used to erode the 2nd A, you guys who love your AR platforms? Look at the history...the NRA made the decision in 1994 that the AR had no valid sporting purposes. It's where the sentence, "The 2nd Amendment ain't about duck hunting" came from...the outnumbered guys fighting the alliance of government and the NRA.

So.. THAT'S why a liberal leftist DA in a liberal leftist wasteland is trying so hard to break it?

Isn't it also possible the Lefty DA is career building, using the very simplistic optic...guns bad, NRA bad...vote for me when I run for attorney general?
Which does not by default make the NRA good...just because a lefty is attacking it.


Well this is a fine pickle we're in, should'a listened to Joe McCarthy and George Orwell I guess.

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I simply refuse to throw out an entire organization, made up of good folks like you and me due to leadership issues.
You don't scuttle a ship because the current captain cannot be trusted to sail it.

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.......with a giant Saguaro cactus.

Ooh....that's bad......
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LOL. Make it a three armed Saguaro at that.

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The higher-ups sent their head criminal off with a $7,000,000 sum (of members money) and they ALL knew of his criminal use of the funds yet did nothing for decades. Those fellow criminals are still the higher-ups.

Fools can send in money and join, but I never will.
Look for my membership after the Jews forgive Hitler and after Hillary Clinton openly tells the USA all the truth of her political career.
When both of those things happen,------------------------------------- I probably still would not join the NRA,

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Originally Posted by WTM45
Who knows?

I simply refuse to throw out an entire organization, made up of good folks like you and me due to leadership issues.
You don't scuttle a ship because the current captain cannot be trusted to sail it.

It's not just the captain, I respectfully encourage you to google the history I mentioned above, and the Neil Knox/Harlon Carter Cincinatti revolt...and draw your conclusions as to the 76 board members that rubber stamp the executive committee actions. The board members are the poster children of the 'good ol boy club', nepotism, back scratching, favoritism, perks, expense accounts ad nauseum. The multi million kickbacks from advertising agencies and media firms was spread widely to maintain the status quo. Get along to go along.
Do you find it strange that not one of the 76 board members questioned the lavish expenditures?
Do you find it strange, the deafening silence as Pres. Oliver North dropped off the radar after questioning expenditures? Nary a peep from the board?
You may take issue with me on this....OK, please go to your search engine and read the history, form your own opinions, please.


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Maybe we're waiting to see if the post-LaPierre NRA is any better before we go back.

Or maybe we just joined GOA.


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Originally Posted by szihn
The higher ups sent their head criminal off with a $7,000,000 sum (of members money) and they ALL knew of his criminal use of the funds yet did nothing for decades. Those fellow criminals are still the higher-ups.

Fools can send in money and join, but I never will.
Look for my membership after the Jews forgive Hitler and after Hillary Clinton openly tells the USA all the truth of her political career.
When both of those things happen,------------------------------------- I probably still would not join the NRA,

Well, I'm a man of my word. If I say I'm going to do something, I do it. 100%. Wife says that's one thing that attracted her to me.
I've been saying all along that I would not renew until WLP was gone. He's gone.


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People are cheap!
And short sighted.


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It's your money lads, if somebody f...ks you once, shame on them, if they f...k you twice, shame on you.


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Originally Posted by flintlocke
Originally Posted by WTM45
Who knows?

I simply refuse to throw out an entire organization, made up of good folks like you and me due to leadership issues.
You don't scuttle a ship because the current captain cannot be trusted to sail it.

It's not just the captain, I respectfully encourage you to google the history I mentioned above, and the Neil Knox/Harlon Carter Cincinatti revolt...and draw your conclusions as to the 76 board members that rubber stamp the executive committee actions. The board members are the poster children of the 'good ol boy club', nepotism, back scratching, favoritism, perks, expense accounts ad nauseum. The multi million kickbacks from advertising agencies and media firms was spread widely to maintain the status quo. Get along to go along.
Do you find it strange that not one of the 76 board members questioned the lavish expenditures?
Do you find it strange, the deafening silence as Pres. Oliver North dropped off the radar after questioning expenditures? Nary a peep from the board?
You may take issue with me on this....OK, please go to your search engine and read the history, form your own opinions, please.

I'm not taking any issue with you individually whatsoever. YOU make valid points. I use the word "you" broadly.
Good discussion.

If I took a stance that "my money" has to be used "my way" then I could not pay insurance premiums, buy American made vehicles, take the prescriptions my doctor advises or give to most charities.

I wish I could fix everything. I can't. Therefore, I take what I need and leave the rest. I take their training, printed materials, their safety educational materials and I attempt to pass it along to those who really need it. I do voice my displeasure with things that I don't agree with to my representatives, but outside that I just do what I can to grow our heritage at home.

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Originally Posted by WTM45
Who knows?

I simply refuse to throw out an entire organization, made up of good folks like you and me due to leadership issues.
You don't scuttle a ship because the current captain cannot be trusted to sail it.


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I will pay my NRA annual dues, but when I have money to donate, it goes to the GOA.


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Originally Posted by BFaucett
Originally Posted by WTM45
Who knows?

I simply refuse to throw out an entire organization, made up of good folks like you and me due to leadership issues.
You don't scuttle a ship because the current captain cannot be trusted to sail it.


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True. True.
The one thing every voice there has in common, is they paid for their ticket and therefore have a voice.
Nobody standing on shore miles away is being heard.

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I like your philosophy, life is a series of compromises, we deal with that the best as we can individually.
I am 78, and I have lived with the compromises the NRA has made, the worst for me, the 1968 GCA, and I, as a law abiding citizen can no longer order a firearm of any kind unless it is in excess of 125 years old. Keeping up on current events, it's difficult for me to see how this has affected firearm related crime stats. So for me, it's difficult to send money to an organization who has a long documented record of encroachment on "shall not be infringed".
I could probably swallow a little larceny by management if the greater good was hard line defense of the 2nd Amendment...but the record does not reflect anything even approaching hard line, collusion actually.


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Originally Posted by WTM45
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Originally Posted by WTM45
Who knows?

I simply refuse to throw out an entire organization, made up of good folks like you and me due to leadership issues.
You don't scuttle a ship because the current captain cannot be trusted to sail it.


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True. True.
The one thing every voice there has in common, is they paid for their ticket and therefore have a voice.
Nobody standing on shore miles away is being heard.


The membership of the NRA wasn't being heard. The membership was (and still is) powerless.


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The owner of this website (Rick Bin?) should require a NRA membership to join. Period. Even the homepage to my shooting range has a link to join.



Damn good idea.



I would not force anyone to join the NRA. But, there are other gun organizations out there to join. If you belong to one post it in your signature line. Let the world know where you stand.

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I apologize for all of the bold print. I can't seem to fix it.
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nobody's noticed the original Post in this thread is now over 11 years old..

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Originally Posted by WTM45
Who knows?

I simply refuse to throw out an entire organization, made up of good folks like you and me due to leadership issues.
You don't scuttle a ship because the current captain cannot be trusted to sail it.


Not disagreeing, but let's not make small hay of what the NRA leadership has been. Its been nothing short of atrocious. Its not a little blip in its history. Leadership has been corruption to its intended role.

NRA is in need a lot of good will to show imo


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Quit giving in inch by inch then looking back to lament the mile behind ya and wonder how to preserve those few feet left in front of ya. They'll never stop until they're stopped. That's a fact.
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