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gnoahhh, Your post made me chuckle...  I had somewhat a better introduction to cast bullets than you did. In fact, that is precisely why I bought my 1st .30-40. The biggest dumb mistake I ever made was this: I traded for a custom Martini chambered in .30-40. It had georgeous wood! While admiring it one day, I looked thru the bore and discovered it only had two grooves. I mentioned it to a friend, and he said that was a military .30-06 bbl. I was so discusted that I got rid of it. Mostly because I didn't think it would shoot cast bullets with only two grooves. Much later, I found out that it would likely have been the best cast bullet shooter I could have asked for.  Or Lord, I wish I had it back... GH
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I have a sporterized 1898 Carbine Krag, with an original factory 24 inch barrel.. guess it was sporterized back in the 50s.. it has some Redfield front site put on it, aftermarket...
and then a Lyman peep site on the back of it..
I run a charge of 25 grains of SR 4759.. look at it as a big version of the 30/30 in a bolt action...
either that, or 30 grains of 4198 or RL 7...
mine is a very accurate on, so I tend to mainly use it for shooting at the range when I get nostalgic moods...I shoot mainly Nosler factory seconds of 168 grain Match bullets thru mine...
doesn't recoil much with those lighter powder charges, but for open sites and my eyesight, it sure shoots small groups at 200 yds, for a barrel that is 114 yrs old.. Should you ever decide to part with it, send me a PM  A good Krag sporter, in the old school, makes a nice clasic bolt action. One does have to make sure the Ruger loads don't go in it, of course.
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I run a charge of 25 grains of SR 4759.. look at it as a big version of the 30/30 in a bolt action...
That load should be considered Max, or a little above. All of the data I have, including Hodgdon's current data. agrees. Knock 5+ grains off of it and you might find it to be even more accurate, and a lot less stressful on 113 year old case hardened steel.
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I also liked 4350 in the Krag. I used 45 grains with 180's in a re-barreled Krag carbine and they worked well.
I have used the same charge behind 220's in my #4 Lee enfield for about 2300 fps. The same rifle gets 48.5 with 165'sThis is way too hot for a Krag. In a P14 I trickle 50 grains in and seat a 180 on it. This gives 2680. I long ago got into the habit of designating a certain bullet for each rifle so I could readily identify the heavy loads. Still, I worry incessantly about putting one of those P14 loads into a Krag. GD
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I run a charge of 25 grains of SR 4759.. look at it as a big version of the 30/30 in a bolt action...
That load should be considered Max, or a little above. All of the data I have, including Hodgdon's current data. agrees. Knock 5+ grains off of it and you might find it to be even more accurate, and a lot less stressful on 113 year old case hardened steel. My source is the old IMR Brown Sheet.. and I trust their data... plus Lyman's Cast Bullet Manual...
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