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I don't understand all the love for the 9.3 caliber??? Am I missing something? 2200-2400 fps with a 250 grain bullet - what's so special about that? You are missing something. It is entirely possible to get 2600fps with the 250gr Nosler Accubond out of a 9.3x62. The 9.3x62 is much closer to the 375 H&H than it is to the 338 Win Mag. For me, it's replaced both calibers.
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243 catbird 270 necked down to 243. 338-06. covered for pdogs to big bears.
I have a 12ga. I don't need a 30-30.
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I don't understand all the love for the 9.3 caliber??? Am I missing something? 2200-2400 fps with a 250 grain bullet - what's so special about that? You are missing something. It is entirely possible to get 2600fps with the 250gr Nosler Accubond out of a 9.3x62. The 9.3x62 is much closer to the 375 H&H than it is to the 338 Win Mag. For me, it's replaced both calibers. Hmmm. Nosler lists TOP speeds at 2500 and some change and that's with a 26 inch tube. Still sounds like a decent big bore but I had no idea it had such a following. Cold Bore...(to quote Top Gun) So...You're the one....grin...
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Scouter: How about a 338/06 and a 280 Remington!
I have a custom pre-64 Winchester Model 70 (Transition Model!) in caliber 280 Remington and it IS simply a wonderful Rifle.
It is strong, handsome, reliable, accurate, safe and holds 6 (six) rounds of ammo!
The 280 Remington as far as I am concerned is a very under-rated round!
Best of luck on your wonderful project!
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280AI and 9.3. Throw a fast 223AI in there and you will be set.
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For your intended purposes:
1) 30-06 set up to shoot 180 gr bullets (CPX3 game)
2) 270 win set up to shoot 130gr bullets (also would consider 6.5x55, 260, 7mm-08, 7x57, or 280)
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Killertraylor,
The Nosler 9.3x62 data is with typical low-pressure loads, due to the ancient factory standards still adhered to in some factory ammo, primarily from Europe.
I use loads in my own 9.3x62 (23.6" barrel) that get just under 2500 fps with 286's and 2650 with 250's. Both have been pressure-tested at around 60,000 psi, which is standard .30-06 SAAMI pressure. And a 250-grain spitzer at 2650 is a lot more than a short-range load.
I like German stuff and have killed a bunch of animals in North America and Africa with the 7x57 and 9.3x62--a combination I took to Africa four years ago. But that's doesn't mean anything other than I was lucky enough to hit them right.
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My vote is for a 7X57 and 9.3X62. Fantastic combo IMO.
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I have 2 Winchester pre-64 transition actions in the hands of Gene Simillion. Both are 30-06 sized actions. Both rifle's will be identical.
I need to choose 2 calibers for lower 48 and African Plains game.
I was leaning toward a 30-06 and 270.
Thanks in advance for any comments. Those are pretty similar.... I guess finding ammo in a pinch, as they say, would be easy. I'd go .280 or 30-06 for one, and 35 Whelen for the other. At least then there's some seperation.
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Late post. You do not need a 9.3x62 or a 35 Whelen for plains game. I have shot nearly 200 with the 275 WinRem (270+280/2). The 30-06 is great for plains game. I would never suggest more than a 338-06 and even then I think the 30-06 is plenty if you can shoot and if you can't then go to something even easier shooting like a 7x57.
Get a 30-06 and a 270. There is some overlap but that is a good thing. On my first trip I was getting a Pre 64 M70 ready and the trigger broke. Could not get it fixed in the remaining 10 days so I got out my mauser G33/40 280 and went. On the twelve trips since I have used a 270 mostly. It has always done the job. I gave up on the 280 cause I couldn't find ammo easily although I handload. I think it is a good idea to have a pair of similar but not identical hunting rifles.
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I would like to thank everyone for the help.
After considering a 9.3x62 and 270 combination I have decided on my initial combination of a 30-06 and 270.
I will shoot 165's to 180's in the 06 and 130's to 150's in the 270.
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scouter, JO'C had a pair of rifles in 270 and 30-06 with which he did most of his hunting. They were slighly difference but there was a lot they had in common. Both could do a lot of different tasks but both were suitable for anything you want to do. You will never be sorry and if one is unavailable you will be able to get the job done regardless. Good hunting!
Gene is great. Another good choice.
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“Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away”.
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Those are 2 good choices for two of the most popular and effective bolt action calibers in history. I found a link to a nice overview I read some time ago by Chuck Hawks titled "A perfect pair?". www.chuckhawks.com/perfect_pair.htm
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MCT3 good article. Each is different enough to distinguish itself but there is an overlap. Perfect pair, of rifles/cartridges that is. Now for other "perfect pairs", a different and more interesting discussion.
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Great article, thanks for the link.
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30-06 and 25-06...then do another one in 35 Whelen,....just cuz.
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I know it's been a while - but any update on how these two beautiful Winchesters turned out?
"You know why nobody panic buys 30-06 ammo? ... Because men with 30-06's don't panic"
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Whoa! This is an oldie.
Hopefully the OP is ready for a re-barrel!
220 Swift and a '06.
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