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I had a hammer screw loosen on one of my C. Sharps rifles too. It seems like the hammer falls so fast that the screw has trouble keeping up with it. But that was quickly fixed.

Shiloh for me no debate at all. 1 st class rifle,products and the people you deal with there. Shot a yearling buffalo bull 2 weeks ago with my All Business Rifle in 45-2 7/8". use the same gun to 1200 yds target shooting with the same ppb loads. Gett'r done rfn. I have both and an original after you have both ,you won't have to ask that question. Magnum Man

the wife doesnt let me stop in Big Timber anymore she stopped with me once and we went into Shiloh and she apparently saw the look on my face as i handled the ones on display and she drug me out of there before i did something stupid like max out a credit card.....

Since I started this and some of you have asked what this rifle would be used for...In a perfect world I would compete. The range here in Juneau is actually a city park and open to the public and is free. The nearest organized BPCR matces are a Jet flight and care rental away, take your choice Anchorage or Denver. Not too likly. Were I to hunt, I have an itch for a high wall in 405 or 444. 444 not very traditional but a 300 grainer @ 2200 fps is a killing combination. I have had several #1s a #3 and four 1895 Marlins so I know these are fightin words but the 45/70 is a bit boring. I was all fired up to buy a 1885 Browning 40/65 ,( campfire fella from North Pole, he owned it since new and it is un-fired, probably still for sale) neet-o, but with the gun in hand... it just did not talk to me. Black powder is not an option hereabouts. 'Have funding, desire, interest just no need. None needed, of course a trip to Tulsa is in order, after all the black rifle BS slows down.

A highwall in .405 would be something to have. Now that Hornady is making the ammo, getting fodder for it is no problem. Bullets too.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=327315863

or a plainer model

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=327641937

Just don't shoot anything any tougher than a paper target with the hornady 405 bullets, they made those cases a bit light. Brass holds up well tho.
Check the Shiloh catalog, they did offer a couple of their round barrel guns in 405.

My choice would be the Highwall from C. Sharps Arms with the straight grip and the octagon barrel for either .405 or .444. I've got a C. Sharps highwall in .32-40, some gun.

Or http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=327967428

If you take Hornady .405 brass and squeeze it, you have a .38-72 and all the .375 bullets are yours to play with. I did this in a highwall, but of course I use lead, paper-patched bullets. You don't have to though.

More range and more flexibility than a .405

And he could go for a .38-56 and use .45/70 brass.

Yeah, but then you have a bottleneck cartridge that is anemic with blackpowder. So, you lose that option more or less.

Ah, but he said black powder was "out." Or did I miss-read something..?

A couple of folks have mentioned here that the wood quality seems better on the Shilohs than the C. Sharps for similar price rifles. That has been my observation as well. I've never owned a C. Sharps and am on my third Shiloh. I travel for work between Helena and Billings a few times a year and always try and stop in Big Timber when time allows.

My first two Shilohs were bought at a local gunshop, and my current Shiloh is one I bought off the rack in Big Timber, though it wasn't configured as I would have ordered it. I shot it for couple of years and then dropped it off with Shiloh for five months and had it rebuilt exactly how I would have ordered it. When I added up the cost of the rebuild (with lots of upgrades), plus what I paid for the original rifle, I ended up spending $800 over what it would have cost to order it that way to begin with. Figuring that I would have likely gone through Bill Goodman and paid the $200 fee, that increase is closer to $600. At least that is how I justified it to myself

Hey that Ballard may do...

But who would want a rifle that did not shoot black well?

Well, he is in Alaska and "There are strange things done 'neath the mid-night sun..."

Cannot just put a few cans in the checked bags...Living on an island in SE AK has its charms, one is justabout no choices. Halibut, Crab, Salmon, Halibut, Crab, Salmon, you get the idea...

I hunted in southern Alaska with black powder (front-stuffer) but I really don't recall how my powder got there. Either I quietly took a little bit with me or my guide already had some. A lot of game was seen and I even got to wait out a storm while "hiding" in Point Baker. Quite a little place. And I played with a otter there that was running around on the docks. He must have been the village pet.

I have had both but none for the last 6-7 years, both co. built Great rifles, I even had a New Ballard 44-77 that was a dandy! Had a pretty maple stocked 1895 C. Sharps in 45-70 killed a bunch of deer with it! had a Great 5070 Shilo, that I bought from Bill Goodman, he was great to deal with and we talked alot of times, that 50-70 was a carbine saddle ring,I could shoot bowling pins off had at 50yrds with it! took it on 3 bear hunts but never saw a bear to shoot, I realy wish i still had that gun! I did own one of the Farmingdale Wolf rifles in 45-120, 14lbs, and still kicked, but ya had to clean it after every shot, or you couldnt champer another round! it didnt last to long. someday if I every get back on my feet, ill get another Sharps!