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Mike,
What grade of wood does C.Sharps call that? I don't know if I've seen a better piece of black walnut, with perfect grain through the wrist to boot.

She is a handsome rifle for certain - and you take a mighty fine picture too.

Good to know she seems to shoot.



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Originally Posted by 303mike
Flyboy Flem, No, I don't know about the lead time at C. Sharps Arms, if I understand your question properly. In fact, I thought ordering a .44 would delay things but that didn't happen. And I had no idea it would be ready when it was until I got word from them that it would be ready the following week and I could come and get it. Even if I did have an idea about the lead time on some of their guns it wouldn't be fair to say so because as with any custom shop, each gun is different. If you are really interested, ask C. Sharps by all means. 303Mike


I was referring to the degree of chamber lead..


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Oh, I would have spelled that leade... Which probably isn't correct either. Yes, I asked for a sketch which shows the leade into the rifling at a 1 1/2-degree taper which follows a .150" long section ahead of the cartridge case area at .448" diameter. That .448" section is for the first band of a bullet. The land to land diameter of the barrel is shown as .4375". I think the very slow or almost flat leade to the rifling is just the thing for paper patch loads. Now I'll do my best to prove it.

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Brent, The wood on this rifle should fall into the Extra Fancy class of walnut. That's what C Sharps calls it in their catalog. When it looks that good, it's worth it.

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My bad on the spelling and I think you're absolutely correct about the PP loads.That is really a beautiful shootin iron you have there!


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Thanks, Woody, now when I do get the PP loads to shoot like I think they should I probably won't be able to keep quiet about it.

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Thanks, Ranch, that's the target I was talking about.

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Ubecha. That rifle is sure showing promise. You find it's sweet spot and it's going to shoot tiny little groups I'm thinking.


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Originally Posted by Ranch13
Here's Mr.303's brand new 44, get your drool rags handy.
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To add: I would be mighty proud to have that rifle under my arm on my Friday nite trips to da whorehouse grin grin


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With that rifle under your arm and the HOG-LEG in yer britches, you'd be ready fer the biggest and baddest hoe-house in the land eh ET? grin laugh

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Mike I like your tast in rifles. If your rifle and mine stood in the rack at the range I just might pick your up by mistake, but the two triggers would give it away. The cressent but plates just set these Sharps off.
And it looks like you got that 77 off and shooting good in a short time.

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Kurt, We'll have to shoot together sometime, for sure. That good target was probably beginner's luck. My shooting today wasn't quite as good. On the other hand, it was better, better because I did fairly well with my paper patched bullet. That actually pleases me more than the shooting with the greaser. Of course, I'd be quick to go with the heavier greaser for long range work. So, I'm liking this rifle too much to let you pick it up by mistake... (G) Yes, our rifles do look quite a bit alike. 303mike

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I havent shot mine much since I got it. I been working with the .44-100 to get it ready for the seasons upcoming matches,,but I think that group in the photo will be the potentials of the .44-77 when you match that case with the powder and bullet. Like every one shooting these rifles we have good days along with the days you scratch your head and wondering what happen. My rifle most likely never will have a tang sight on it because it was not build with match shooting in mind but with the barrel sights on it, it shows it would do just fine with the single trigger and light weight barrel it has.
Keep us up to date with your progress with the little .44

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Hey Kurt, Most people will probably get tired of hearing about this one. Right now I'd better go clean it. 303mike

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I don't understand why the .44 takes the back seat to the .45. I shoot the .45's in several calibers and the .44's. My .44 have it over the .45's for flatter shooters and the accuracy is just as good as the .45's. One of my .44's stands way over the .45 as far as accuracy and the few that shoot the .44's in matches are usually on the top of the leader boards at the end of the day.
A .44 was my first large caliber rifle and will probably be the last. The .44 has been in my hands on and off for the past 60+ years. I like it.
Now that the brass is starting to come back in supply maybe the popularity will come back.

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Kurt, the difference between a .44 and .45 is pretty immaterial don't you think? I mean really, such a small difference in diameter and weight and essentially no difference in BC, it can't really matter. Just find the optimal speed and send it out there.

I haven't see a .44 on the leaderboard ever. I'm not sure I've seen more than one or two in competition. I suppose I could go back through the silhouette nationals scores that I posted on my website but I don't recall a .44 off hand. There must have been a few over the years, but since I've been out there, I don't recall one. hmm. might have to go look.
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I'm thinking that Kelley Roos and Zack Taylor has shot some good scores with various 44's.


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they probably did but I don't think Kelley has been to Raton since 2008 or so. I've been paging back through the results. One .44-75 is listed in 2010. No way to know how it shot though. Probably some more going further back.

I uploaded all the scores to the web and made a front end page for anyone that wants to page through them. The files are scanned PDFs so they are not searchable as text files unfortunately but there are equipment summaries in the beginning of each results book.



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A .44-90 in 2009


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