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Please continue to burnish your image as resident campfire idiot. He is king of the hill in that competition and no one is even seriously challenging him. Best to put him ignore.
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Hey if you fudge packers like 50mm scopes I'm ok with that. They scream redneck trailer park trash but hey I'm guessing you have a Browning sticker too.
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I tried a 50mm scope on one of my rifles for an egg match and for load developement and had to use such high rings that I ended up having to install an adjustable cheek peice to be able to shoot the gun accurately. So where do you used these monsters. I'm not much of a big game hunter any more but have hunted coyotes in five states so far this year and find my 1.5x6x40mm more than adequate and I don't even have any hunting hour restrictions. I'd guess you were using the wrong stock and possibly rings. They don't fit all applications. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Hey if you fudge packers like 50mm scopes I'm ok with that. They scream redneck trailer park trash but hey I'm guessing you have a Browning sticker too. You know that you are perfectly describing yourself here...........no one..........I mean no one oozes trailer trash redneck more than you!!!
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I have a couple..all are on rifles set up for longer ranges..One spot I have for deer is a stand that I can see for 500 yards or so down the old strip mine..I am not sure the 50 mm was necessary, but in the scope I wanted that is what was available..As someone stated, I would NOT lug this rifle around for mt. hunting, but for the purpose, it is great..I also have a couple long range coyote rifles with 50 mm scopes on them..Calling is pretty difficult here as they have three or four contests in the area each fall..So I like to glass and take long shots..or locate a dead cow, or other animal..I also prefer a rifle scope with lots of power..Have a couple 6x Leupolds and an old Lyman..they are all lying in the safe right now but one Leupold is on a Ruger 10-22..
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It sounds like you either have a poorly shaped stock or a weird face structure. Also, most 50mm objective scopes will go into medium rings which aren't very high at all, it depends upon the base height and barrel contour among other things.
Nothing seems to get the scope nazis worked up here more than guys owning big objective scopes. It's like mentioning an AR-15 to a democrat, they start frothing at the mouth about how nobody needs to own one of THOSE things.
The fact of the matter is that nobody really needs a scope at all, iron sights worked for a bunch of people for many hundreds of years. Scopes are a shooting luxury and as such it's up to the user to determine which aspects of that luxury he values more. Some people want more magnification, others want top quality optics, others prize durability at the expense of weight, and others just want something cheap. We all have our criteria for choosing a scope and thankfully there are a bunch of them available for any desire. If you see someone with a high end european scope with a 50-56mm then you can deduce that low light gathering ability is important to him. Your 1.5-6x40 might please you, but generally I want more magnification than that. To keep the scope bright at last light with a deer in the shadows 200 yds away on a food plot I want good glass, high magnification, and a big objective. If you're coyote calling with shots usually under 50 yds & a colored lens spotlight at night, something else might be more optimum.
Choose what works for you and let others choose what works for them. Big objective scopes were typically designed for low light shooting to maintain brightness as you turn up the power. The guys that seem to hate them the most seem to be the western hunters who aim to be back at camp before the sun sets, they can't seem to understand that not everyone hunts that way. To an eastern whitetail hunter the last five minutes of daylight usually provides more quality hunting than the entire rest of the day, if your equipment can't hack it when the light gets low then you're wasting your time. I don't care that it doesn't handle quite as well as rifle with a 2.5-8x36 leupold, it matters none at all when it's slung over my back for the 1/4 mile mostly flat walk to my stand. I also don't care that it's an inch longer, 3 oz. heavier, or sits .125" higher in the rings, those are easy enough to deal with for the extra performance it gives me in my hunting environment.
If one doesn't work for you then don't buy one, but don't dismiss that no one "needs" one because they don't fill your desires. Your hunting conditions aren't the same as the guys using them. Well said, I agree with you. You can use the scope you desire, what others think you need, does not matter in the least.
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Personally,I'm a fan of smaller objectives.I wish there were more quality 36mm objective scopes. So do I. As long as there's a fascination with ultrapowered scopes by the wannabe sniper crowd I'm not holding my breath for an increase in numbers of the 2-7x,2-8, or 3-9x36 etc. variables that will be available on the market.
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Personally,I'm a fan of smaller objectives.I wish there were more quality 36mm objective scopes. So do I. As long as there's a fascination with ultrapowered scopes by the wannabe sniper crowd I'm not holding my breath for an increase in numbers of the 2-7x,2-8, or 3-9x36 etc. variables that will be available on the market. Do you know what the most popular sized hunting scopes are? I am thinkng they are the 40-42 mm. scopes, and for a good reason. Most hunters want a scope that allows a good view of what they are shooting at, when the light grows dim. That means first light and late light. Deer hunting, often requires light gathering, during those critical times in the field. I hope this is not too complicated for some, most here are looking for advice for hunting optics. If you are a target shooter then go for whatever. I would not purchase anything smaller, as many others would.
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someday your brain will reside in a jar of formaldehyde in the Tulane University Medical School Gross Anatomy Department. The caption will read "First Turd found within a human skull"
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Hey if you fudge packers like 50mm scopes I'm ok with that. They scream redneck trailer park trash but hey I'm guessing you have a Browning sticker too. Stick to your Bushnell Bubble pack scopes they fit you best. Fudgepackers like yourself drive Ford Fiestas correct, you should know you own one? You are still a [bleep] zero who cross dresses and specializes in azz shot deer. Good thing about the internet old pictures and posts never go away.
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Personally,I'm a fan of smaller objectives.I wish there were more quality 36mm objective scopes. So do I. As long as there's a fascination with ultrapowered scopes by the wannabe sniper crowd I'm not holding my breath for an increase in numbers of the 2-7x,2-8, or 3-9x36 etc. variables that will be available on the market. Do you know what the most popular sized hunting scopes are? I am thinkng they are the 40-42 mm. scopes, and for a good reason. Most hunters want a scope that allows a good view of what they are shooting at, when the light grows dim. That means first light and late light. Deer hunting, often requires light gathering, during those critical times in the field. I hope this is not too complicated for some, most here are looking for advice for hunting optics. If you are a target shooter then go for whatever. I would not purchase anything smaller, as many others would. I can see pretty well through a 33mm objective. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Not to mention a 20mm.
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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Not to mention a 20mm.
Travis trick shooter..this is the optics forum, if it dont say S&B there is no way you'll be able to see your whitetail out in the food plot.
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Yeah, Americans aren't hunting big game in the dark. It's not that hard to find a small, light scope that will get you to half an hour past sunset.
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Wow I didn't realize there were so many Jerry Springer reject 50mm scope users here. I figured this to be a place for serious shooters and hunters. I freely admit I was wrong. You girls kill me.....
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its the optics forum swampy..lots of guys in this forum make you look sane.
I have a few 50's and even a 56..they have their place.
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Yea in the recycling bin.....
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I dont know about that, i hear they go good with golf carts..
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Not to mention a 20mm.
Travis trick shooter..this is the optics forum, if it dont say S&B there is no way you'll be able to see your whitetail out in the food plot. I would like to try one. But until then... Travis
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Travis,
I have a S&B 4-16x50 that I can lend you if you want to shoot one for a while. I just need you to pay the freight, FedEx, insured, both ways.
I trust ya'!
PS. - No ring marks please.
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