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I simply don't fool around with mini-guns; I prefer a bigger gun if the attire of the day allows IWB or a shoulder holster if I'm going to spend a lot of time in a car or sitting.
Favorites & most carried are a 1911 Commander w/bobtail, Beretta 92 full size or Compact (which is not really very compact), Glock 19/23 or maybe a Glock 26/27 with a magazine extension.
For any other needs, it's a S&W J-frame in a front pants pocket or a jacket pocket.........That's as small as I am usually willing to go.
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handguns are still evolving. The new Springfield XDS I picked up is almost identical in size to my Smith 442. The S&W is some 8 ounces lighter, but they are physically almost the same. The decision as to size is becoming more and more difficult. A .38 Special with 5 rounds, or a .45 ACP with 6, in the same size package.
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IMO, weight, as well as size is a factor in comfortable pocket carry.
The S&W Airweight J frames (642/442) are about as heavy as I want for moving around much & carrying for any length of time in my front pants pocket.
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take a look at the Kahr CW9 CW40. this is my cc pistol, has a slim frame .90" wide single stack mag. i have large hands and i need this compact size over the CM9-CM40. added the hogue handall junior grip, perfect fit for me. highly accurate pistol with a short barrel, smoothest trigger just had to get use to the long travel. worth taking a look at and about $100 cheaper than the the Glock. Do you know if the CW9/40 sights can be replaced?
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handguns are still evolving. The new Springfield XDS I picked up is almost identical in size to my Smith 442. The S&W is some 8 ounces lighter, but they are physically almost the same. The decision as to size is becoming more and more difficult. A .38 Special with 5 rounds, or a .45 ACP with 6, in the same size package. What�s that they say? A picture is worth a thousand words�or some such thing. That picture really puts it all into perspective doesn�t it? Now I�m going to have to go find one of those and drop it into my front pocket. If it really works as a pocket gun, and the thing is reliable; I�m in!!
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Let us know how you like 22-24 oz in a front pants pocket, especially if you're walking fast.
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Although the XDS may be a �pocket gun� in a purely theoretical sense because I can fit it in a jeans pocket, it does not meet my definition. I like to be able to get a firing grip on the gun while it is in the pocket in a pocket holster and be able to withdraw it smoothly and snag-free. I can�t do that with my jeans. And, with the trigger the way it is, a snag on the draw could create a real problem with this type of gun in a reflexive grasp situation. The largetst I can go in a semi-auto and still consider it a pocket gun is a Beretta Nano (about 22-1/2 ounces loaded with 6-124 Gold Dots), but I still prefer the Sig P938 (20 ounces loaded) because its overall dimensions are the smallest and there is not blocky hump on the rear of the slide like most striker fired pistols.
Another thing to consider is that overall dimensions are very deceptive. Two inches of a S&W J Frame are overall much smaller and concealable than two inches consisting of a boxy slide, and a dust cover that is big enough to house recoil springs and also is squared with a rail. The grip on the S&W also is much slimmer and rounded than a square grip that can accommodate a magazine with .45 ACP rounds. The cylinder is widest part on the revolver, and that is only a small percentage of the overall gun.
I think the XDS is a great IWB gun for someone who lives in a place where even a CCW holder needs to be very discreet, like a �may issue� state or a purple state. It also would make an awesome backup gun in an ankle holster or cargo pocket of uniform pants. It weighs about 25-1/2 ounces (junky scale) loaded with 5-230 grain Gold Dots.
YMMV
Last edited by Cheyenne; 02/08/13.
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the XDS is thinner than the Smith.
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