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Been on here for years and never got screwed before. Until now. Bought a Weaver V9 from him. It is fogged real bad. He says the ad says it was fogged. His reply to me returning it.

I put right in the description it is not clear, and i showed in a picture. I am not accepting a return on it. The last picture of the post show is is not clear. You got it at a cheap price due to this reason. This scope in a mint condition scenario is worth 150+....Send it to iron sighters they will fix it up for you to your liking.


Here is the 'exact' ad. Tell me if you can read that this as a bad scope.

I see no mention of fogged optics! If stating not as clear as todays optics means its fogged then it seems to me you were mislead. I wish you luck.

Jeff having dealt with you on sales and just chatting on the phone I know you are not one to put up something like this unless it was absolutely true. No mention of the scope being fogged in that post. Sorry to see you get bit like this.

theduke308 just fooked himself on this site!!!

Maybe we need a thread or a sticky for sales like this !!!

If someone I dealt with felt I misstated the condition of an item I would take it back and refund his money.

The ad dosent say it was fogged, it says not as clear as todays scopes, when you say fogged do you mean fogged with condensation, water vapor, if so he should take it back because that wasent stated in the ad

I wouldn't have expected a fogged up scope after reading the ad. RAS is one of the good guys on here. Gods luck to you.
hwgtyd

It does say "Not as clear as today's scopes but not horrible either". I dont know the guy but just had a dealing with him and was as smooth as silk, super fast shipping on top of that.

I sold a gun to both RAS and Duke and no trouble either way. Lots of communication from the duke.

Sounds like he ought to go to work writing political ads for Democraps! Phugging liar better make it right!

Look at the last picture guys...come on.. wow

I lowered my price for you to buy it from 110 to 95 dollars, you can clearly see the picture and I said it was not as clear as today's optics, which it is not.... And I misrepresented??? A misrepresentation would not have included a picture looking through the scope my friend. I do not give refunds for buyers remorse...look closely at my pictures before you buy my items and there will never be any problems.

Geez, my online reputation is certainly worth more than a rifle scope. Frankly I can't believe the guy won't refund the money even if he feels it was full disclosure and just a difference of opinion in wording.

I don't expect everybody to deal the way I do; but, my policy has always been, even if the guy gets the item and then tells me he changed his mind, I take it back. He/she just pays for shipping. It's just not worth it. Take it back, re-list it, honestly.

"Not as clear as today's scopes but not horrible either. Nice looking outer glass."

I think it would have been much "clearer" to simply state in the ad that: "The scope is fogged."

It's hard to tell from a picture, over the 'net, taken in the way that one was, if it was really fogged or just glare or reflection.

Just an outside opinion, not bashing, but from reading the ad, I would not have expected the scope to be fogged when it arrived...but the seller may have intended to show and explain that it was. Hope you guys can get it worked out.

Edited to say good for making the return offer...

Hey listen, not to hijack, but I will sidetrack slightly. We've seen a few Weaver stories lately, foggy, fuzzy crosshairs (dust inside). I'm the big "Buy a Leupold" guy. I realize there are reasons to want a vintage scope for appearances, but these kinds of problems are not isolated incidences. They must not even be gas filled because the advice for fuzzy Weaver crosshairs is to take them apart and blow the dust off. I think you get what you pay for with $100 scopes. Anyhow, doesn't sound like Jeff got what he was expecting.

$0.02 here...
Seems like if'n you weren't happy with the deal, he should take it back with a refund. Shipping costs both ways would probably be responsibility of the individuals shipping it out.
I don't see in the add where he said it was fogged up.
"Not as clear as today's scopes but not horrible either" doesn't say its fogged. It basically means to me that the new scopes are better quality, not that this one is defective.
I think he should buy it back...shipping might be negotiated.
Doesn't sound like a honest deal to me, sounds like someone wanted to get rid of a bummer scope.

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Opps! Looks like the return offer was removed. Oh well.

I will take it to a PM with the original buyer, I am not arguing with someone over the public forum about something that is a personal matter... I bet you dont find anyone else that I have sold to on here that thinks I ripped them off, and this is not the case here either. The picture clearly and accurately shows the scope. I never misrepresent items. I lowered the price for him and he still has a beef about it?? Very classy in my opinion.

There's no better or more honest member here than RAS. The seller is here just for commercial purposes, and that's why I didn't do any more deals with him.

The scope was "clearly" misrepresented.

The seller has effectively screwed himself at this site, just like he screwed RAS.

110 bucks for the bottom of a Milk Jug is still 110 bucks for the bottom of a Milk Jug.

And I did offer via a PM to take it back since he wants to make a major public spectacle about his and my difference in opinion, and apparently computer monitor resolution.

By the way, you cant see through a foggy scope, this one was very much see through-able, just that it was not as clear as other scopes I have. I have yet to see a 40 year old weaver that was as clear as a Leupold, bushnell or even a Tasco...

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