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CAS,

Wouldn't that make the remaining 80% of the retarded population right handed, and 72% of the severely mentally retaded population right handed? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />. If I'm not mistaken the majority of that population is also of the male gender. So we better be careful or the women folk are going to take away our guns <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> (tongue in cheek too)

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Well, if the mentally retarded population overindexes left handed, it is much more likely that any random left handed person you see would be retarded than his right handed counterpart.

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Kind of like the stat that one in 10 males are gay. If you're wiht 9 friends, and they're all straight, guess where that leaves you <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />

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I believe that the Remington custom shop WILL produce other than a full out custom gun, at least they will chamber a production rifle in a caliber that is not catalogued for that model.

Say a left hander wanted a .25-06 Model 700. They will chamber a standard BDL (or now a CDL) like that but you have to pay just about MSRP and then some.

At least they used to do that a short time ago, haven't called them recently.


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I like others would like to see at least more calibers offered in the left handed actions out there now,,

But I may have to break down and buy a Steyr now that they are brining out the SBS in 450 marlin


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My opinion:

Rifle enthusiasts are a dying breed.

Most rifles are built well enough to last more than one human lifetime. The old ones get passed down to generations less interested in rifles/shooting/hunting, and more interested in i-pods, cell phones, clothes, manicures, and getting rid of unwanted body hair.

No surprise business is slowing down for the gunmakers.

Then, most folks who serve in the military are drawn toward weapons that resemble what they carried in the military. Look at the current popularity of AR15, AR10, M1A type rifles.

Easy for me to see why the traditional big gunmakers are having a tough time.

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The Savages with the new triggers are good, but don't they have a 90 degree bolt lift and a two postion safety keeping them from being perfect?


Three Position Tang safety. It works real nice and does not have to be re-engineered for left handed actions.

If the bot lift is 60 degrees or 90 degrees it is still pretty good. Besides, the dang Savages are so accurate, you won't need a second shot . . . . <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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As far as I know we wouldn't have been able to call the Win custom shop and order a plain vanilla Sporter III CRF except with a Coyote barrel and pay an extra oh say $250 over the normal retail.


You CAN do that with Savage. Savage previously made a Right handed Blued Steel Scout rifle. But, Savage did not even catalog the Scout rifle when I called up and requested LEFT handed Stainless.

"Oh, I will get you a quote" was the answer.

A signed FFL and credit card number was all it took to get my rifle. From order to delivery in 11 weeks.

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1-Rifle enthusiasts are a dying breed.


2-Then, most folks who serve in the military are drawn toward weapons that resemble what they carried in the military. Look at the current popularity of AR15, AR10, M1A type rifles.


Shane you are Spot On.

I will add:

3-Handguns are now more ppopular than rifles because they are more useful in Urban environments.

I expect that Ruger will stay in business a L-O-N-G time selling handguns.

USRAC died out selling (primarily) rifles with no added value products (like Ammo) to support the company.

Good Shooting,

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Adding to the situation,

With most manufacturing going abroad, less and less suburbanites can afford to buy their kid a rifle and take them hunting or shooting.

Places to shoot are now getting so commercialized it is a real expense. When I was a kid in the 70s, we could go plinking at the town dump, or walk along the railroad tracks and shoot cans, ground squirrels, etc. Today those actions would result in a SWAT team interdiction, and felony charges of terrorism.

It doesn't make it any easier for youngsters to get interested in shooting.

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Hunting is gradually becoming more and more an elitist sport in this country. And I stress gradually. But it is happening.

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What the kids can actually afford to buy and shoot, are .22s and SKSs...

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I think smaller companies like Montana Rifleman, GA Precision, etc, are the wave of the future.

Savage and Ruger have been the most innovative and progressive big gunmakers IMO, in the last 20 years or so. They offer a lot for a little, to the great majority of gun buyers.

We (certified rifle looneys) buy a Remington and [bleep] most of it, to build something that makes us grin, off the receiver.

Asking a premium for shoddy craftsmanship is a recipe for failure, as Winchester is finding out.

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What Shane said in his last 5 posts..... I'm gonna have to sell all of my centerfires and buy a Savage 06 so I have enough money to HUNT everything..... I aint kiddin neither....... 721 it'll still wear a Leuppie though!~!!!

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Something for less than $1000 that would offer choices in light weight, sporter and varmint barrels, with good triggers, some sort of 3 position safety, and a 60 degree bolt lift would be nice. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Maybe a choice between wood and black synthetic as well as camo syhthetic stocks.


It's called a Weatherby six lugger! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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