Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire How many ar's can I purchase without red flags and the ATF at my door?

guns are like any other piece of property.

Best place it can be is in a place it owns itself and doesn't know you from Adam.

What were the charges? Selling a privately owned rifle is very legal.

They charged him with selling without a license,he reportedly picked up 13-14 AK's in about 10 days time at one shop at one time.He had bought them from a distributor and had several dealers doing transfers for him.I think the total was well over 30,spread out over a couple of dealers in NC and SC.They really think he was shipping out of the country

Nothing illegal there.

They really think he was shipping out of the country

He was imprisoned for what they "think"?

A "license" is a legal binding tax set up by Federal,state or local governments,you can always choose how to carry on your business,until you get caught.It's there to protect people who have made an investment and run a legitament company.

This young man is now a Felon with a record and I'm guessing an experience from prison he'll never forget...

dude,I'm reciting what was in the newspaper,a lot of talk around town about it.I'm sure there's more to the story than what was printed.

Not my style... sorry.

Whats the big deal? Put 2 in your name, 2 in your wifes name, 1 in your brothers name ect ect. But first, quit telling the whole world about it.

Do private sales and skip the dealers, no one os none the wiser.

Try this...best I could get out of their archives... chief..

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/01/28/3814375/charlotte-gun-trafficking-case.html

Doug Miller and Gary L. Wright
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Don Ingram, store manager of Carolina Sporting Arms, and others at the store alerted federal agents to a customer who bought suspicious quantities of assault rifles. JOHN D. SIMMONS - jsimmonscharlotteobserver.com
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What happened to Michael Beas illustrates how current gun laws worked well � or how flawed they really are.

For six months last year, Beas bought dozens of assault weapons and sold them without a license at gun shows in Georgia and the Carolinas, court records show. He sold parts for 12 .50-caliber weapons in a hotel parking lot off Interstate 85 in Charlotte. He frequently traveled to Bolivia, a nation with a history of gun trafficking.

But authorities captured Beas, Beas has agreed to plead guilty to dealing firearms without a license, a crime punishable by up to five years in prison. He is scheduled to enter his plea on Wednesday in federal court in Charlotte.

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Your dealer will file an ATF form 3310.12

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/industry/080911-qa-multiple-rifles.pdf

http://www.atf.gov/forms/download/atf-f-3310-12.pdf

"Your dealer will file an ATF form 3310.12"

Why?

Those forms are specifically for dealers in four Southern border states... MI is not one of them...

I didn't catch that, sorry. Of course they won't be doing that in the few states in the very near future. Can't really justify that. To make it fair they will do it in all states. I'd say within the next 12 months.

But authorities captured Beas, 33, only after employees at a Charlotte gun store grew suspicious of his large AK-47 purchases and voluntarily tipped off federal agents.

�There�s really nothing wrong with buying a lot of guns,� said Carolina Sporting Arms salesman Phil Reynolds. �We just thought it was very strange to have that many guns of that type.�

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Sounds like people to avoid. The ones that snitch to the Feds

Since I haven't actually DONE anything, there's nothing to tell the world about. I'm just here on the 'fire putting up hypotheticals of a sound investment. But if I DID choose to follow through, the advice from here could be quite useful... including putting one in each of my family member's names.

See something say something.

This could be called straw purchasing. And you can bet, since these posts, they already know who you are and where you live. Leave the gun dealing to gun dealers.

i'd buy em' and not give it another thought. i bought 7 ruger lcp's to give a Christmas presents and haven't had a visit yet. no atf folks are going to visit at this point. however, if by some extreme chance any legislation gets passed making the purchase of more than one or two in a given amount of time illegal, then a visit might be possible. i wouldn't worry.

Know a guy who recently was requested to come to a office 150 miles from where he lived for an interview concerning his purchase of thirty cases of 223 on his credit card.He seemed to thing the alert somehow was made through the credit card co. I was amazed that he submitted to their request to make the trip. Wooled him around and told him not to be re-selling it.Think the ammo seller might have tipped them? Makes you wonder. GW

Since this guy probably isn't a reloader I hope you are being a great friend and scavenging his brass.

Nope......what the original poster asked about is NOT a straw purchase.......look up the legal definition.......

I'd tell em to [bleep] themselves.. there isn't a law anywhere that I know of, that says you can't buy X amount of ammo and then if desired sell it again. Its not, at this time, regulated to taht extent.

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More to this story too I"d bet.